From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8206 invoked by alias); 14 Dec 2007 13:47:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 8186 invoked by uid 22791); 14 Dec 2007 13:47:37 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mail-dub.bigfish.com (HELO mail170-dub-R.bigfish.com) (213.199.154.10) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:47:29 +0000 Received: from mail170-dub (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail170-dub-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF481300A30 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:47:26 +0000 (UTC) X-BigFish: VP X-MS-Exchange-Organization-Antispam-Report: OrigIP: 141.131.3.20;Service: EHS Received: by mail170-dub (MessageSwitch) id 1197640046415024_22366; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:47:26 +0000 (UCT) Received: from mail1.cirrus.com (mail1.cirrus.com [141.131.3.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail170-dub.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F000B8C005E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CLMSG-01.ad.cirrus.com ([198.61.95.37]) by mail1.cirrus.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lBEDkfI9011447 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:46:41 -0600 Received: from [198.61.92.105] ([198.61.92.105]) by CLMSG-01.ad.cirrus.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:47:24 -0600 From: Brian Austin Cc: ecos-discuss@sources.redhat.com In-Reply-To: <476190B4.2050606@mindspring.com> References: <1197567366.3593.17.camel@lucretius.esaturnus.com> <476190B4.2050606@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:34:00 -0000 Message-Id: <1197639922.23339.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact ecos-discuss-help@ecos.sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org Subject: Re: [ECOS] Re: Is eCos project still alive? X-SW-Source: 2007-12/txt/msg00087.txt.bz2 I can see that, but as for what we use ( RedBoot ). customers love it. >From my experiences, if it does what it's supposed to do, who cares how old it is. How many folks use X11? On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 15:06 -0500, Frank Pagliughi wrote: > As a embedded-systems consultant, I've been using eCos for several > years, and I love it. I've used it for my own development - test apps > and demos - but I have never been able to sell a single customer on > using the OS for a project. When a potential customer (usually a > manager type) has a look, those things do stand out: it *looks* old and > out of date, on first pass. Most don't seem to get past poking around > the web page. > > For more technically sophisticated customers, when 2.0 first appeared, > it literally took ten minutes to download the code, and get a sample app > running on an old PC. Now when I tell a customer to take it for a test > drive, the setup gets involved, with pieces from several places. > > I try to tell them to look closer, but by that time, they've already > chosen something else. From my experience, the current state of the > project doesn't seem to help sell it. > > Frank > -- Before posting, please read the FAQ: http://ecos.sourceware.org/fom/ecos and search the list archive: http://ecos.sourceware.org/ml/ecos-discuss