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From: Adrian Caceres <adrian@atheros.com>
To: "'ecos-discuss@sources.redhat.com'" <ecos-discuss@sources.redhat.com>
Subject: [ECOS] ECOS development model
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:19:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FB03907.1070604@atheros.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1068142394.13745.6883.camel@hermes>

I was a tad surprised by the answer below regarding what version of ECOS 
should an
app developer use so I was wondering what did I miss:

- What is open source community development model for  ECOS?

Many open source projects have some form of a stable release model
where some form of testing has been performed and it is somewhat 
"blessed" by
the maintainers.

I thought/assumed that ECOS had a similar model and that 2.0 was a stable
version.  And that it would be expected for an ECOS user to base a new
project off such stable version.  And that going forwards there
would be other stable releases such as 2.1 or 3.0, etc.

So I was a tad surprised that Gary recommended the use of the CVS tree
directly .  I would have expected that the CVS tree was really the ECOS
development source tree, that it would suffer from the instability such
a source would have, and thus would not be a recommended choice
for someone developing an app for it.

Did I miss something?  Was the context of the thread below regarding a
feature that is going into the ECOS source tree and I missed it?

thanks

adrian

Gary Thomas wrote:

>On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 11:13, Snider, Marc wrote:
>  
>
>>Makes sense, Gary.  Thanks for the pointers...  Assuming I'm otherwise
>>entirely comfortable with what version 1.3.1 provides, will I need to go to
>>(do you advise) version 2.0 before making these mods or is 1.3.1 adequate?  
>>
>>    
>>
>
>1.3.1 is too out of date - don't even think about it.
>
>Use the latest from CVS - that's the best approach.
>
>  
>
>>Thanks again,
>>Marc
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Gary Thomas [mailto:gary@mlbassoc.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:42 PM
>>To: Snider, Marc
>>Cc: 'ecos-discuss@sources.redhat.com'
>>Subject: RE: [ECOS] Redboot image load via PCI bus?
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 10:37, Snider, Marc wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>My thought was to provide the standard I/O device driver routines (open,
>>>close, read...) on top of the PCI accesses and thus shield the higher
>>>      
>>>
>>layer
>>    
>>
>>>loader code.  I'd make it look like the image data was coming from
>>>      
>>>
>>somewhere
>>    
>>
>>>else like the flash.  It looks like do_load doesn't care where the image
>>>data comes from as long as the native format (in my case likely SREC) is
>>>maintained...
>>>
>>>Yes, the host does have access to the memory on the target system, but it
>>>would be preferable to pull the data from the host as opposed to pushing
>>>      
>>>
>>it
>>    
>>
>>>from there to the target...
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Understood.  If you look carefully at how the "load" command works,
>>you won't need to make *any* changes directly to it, but just add a
>>new I/O method.  Also, I'd suggest that you put your new PCI method
>>in your platform HAL - there is no need to mess about with the core
>>of RedBoot.
>>
>>note: a lot of care has been taken (by me) to allow such extensions
>>without any [direct] changes to the RedBoot tree.  
>>
>>... Ah, the joy of tables.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Marc
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Gary Thomas [mailto:gary@mlbassoc.com]
>>>Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:46 AM
>>>To: Snider, Marc
>>>Cc: 'ecos-discuss@sources.redhat.com'
>>>Subject: Re: [ECOS] Redboot image load via PCI bus?
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 09:45, Snider, Marc wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Is there a canned method implemented somewhere for loading an image via
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>the
>>>      
>>>
>>>>PCI bus (from another host), as opposed to using the network or loading
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>from
>>>      
>>>
>>>>flash?   I'd like to load an image from a control host across the PCI
>>>>        
>>>>
>>bus
>>    
>>
>>>>and then burn it to flash...   I'm assuming that if there isn't then
>>>>        
>>>>
>>I'll
>>    
>>
>>>>need to modify the do_load command and provide a set of I/O routines
>>>>        
>>>>
>>that
>>    
>>
>>>>map PCI accesses into standard I/O convention...
>>>>
>>>>I'm on a PowerPC440 platform, if the platform matters.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>What method would you use to access the image via the PCI?
>>>Can your host access the memory on the board?
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com>
>>>MLB Associates
>>>      
>>>


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  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-11  1:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-06 18:10 [ECOS] Redboot image load via PCI bus? Snider, Marc
2003-11-06 18:13 ` Gary Thomas
2003-11-11  1:19   ` Adrian Caceres [this message]
2003-11-11  7:46     ` [ECOS] ECOS development model Andrew Lunn

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