[ECOS] synthetic ethernet

[ECOS] synthetic ethernet

[Simon Kallweit]

Hi

Has anyone used the synthetic ethernet driver recently? I'm a bit stuck 
with the rawether utility, which does not seem to work when invoked as a 
user. I've seen that the Makefile used to install the eth synth host 
stuff does try to change the rawether user to root and set the suid 
flag. But even using suid I still get the same permission error everytime:

0Failed to initialize /dev/net/tun, errno Operation not permitted (1)

Running rawether using sudo, it actually seems to work. Now I don't 
quite see where the difference between the suid and sudo method is?!? 
But I guess I miss the obvious here ...

Any advice?

Simon

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Re: [ECOS] synthetic ethernet

[Sergei Gavrikov]

Simon Kallweit wrote:
> 0Failed to initialize /dev/net/tun, errno Operation not permitted (1)
>
> Running rawether using sudo, it actually seems to work. Now I don't  
> quite see where the difference between the suid and sudo method is?!?  
> But I guess I miss the obvious here ...
>
> Any advice?

Try tunctl. man tunctl.

Sergei

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Re: [ECOS] synthetic ethernet

[Simon Kallweit]

Sergei Gavrikov wrote:
> Simon Kallweit wrote:
>   
>> 0Failed to initialize /dev/net/tun, errno Operation not permitted (1)
>>
>> Running rawether using sudo, it actually seems to work. Now I don't  
>> quite see where the difference between the suid and sudo method is?!?  
>> But I guess I miss the obvious here ...
>>
>> Any advice?
>>     
>
> Try tunctl. man tunctl.
>   

Thanks, got it working. Might be worth to add a little note in the ecos 
documentation.

Simon

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Re: [ECOS] synthetic ethernet

[Sergei Gavrikov]

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:47:19PM +0100, Simon Kallweit wrote:
> Sergei Gavrikov wrote:
>> Simon Kallweit wrote:
>>   
>>> 0Failed to initialize /dev/net/tun, errno Operation not permitted (1)
>>>
>>> Running rawether using sudo, it actually seems to work. Now I don't   
>>> quite see where the difference between the suid and sudo method is?!? 
>>>  But I guess I miss the obvious here ...
>>>
>>> Any advice?
>>>     
>>
>> Try tunctl. man tunctl.
>>   
>
> Thanks, got it working. Might be worth to add a little note in the ecos  
> documentation.

I would prefer to exclude setuid setup at all from install rules. I
install tools with prefix --prefix=${HOME}/ecos/tools, and I hate to
type sudo make install; sudo chown -R ...

Sergei

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Re: [ECOS] synthetic ethernet

[Simon Kallweit]

> I would prefer to exclude setuid setup at all from install rules. I
> install tools with prefix --prefix=${HOME}/ecos/tools, and I hate to
> type sudo make install; sudo chown -R ...
>   

Yeah I guess this can be removed, as the setuid approach obviously does 
not work (anymore).

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Re: [ECOS] synthetic ethernet

[Bart Veer]

>>>>> "Sergei" == Sergei Gavrikov <sergei.gavrikov@gmail.com> writes:

    Sergei> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:47:19PM +0100, Simon Kallweit wrote:
    >> Sergei Gavrikov wrote:
    >>> Simon Kallweit wrote:
    >>> 
    >>>> 0Failed to initialize /dev/net/tun, errno Operationa not
    >>>> permitted (1)
    >>>> 
    >>>> Running rawether using sudo, it actually seems to work. Now I
    >>>> don't quite see where the difference between the suid and
    >>>> sudo method is?!? But I guess I miss the obvious here ...
    >>>> 
    >>>> Any advice?
    >>>> 
    >>> 
    >>> Try tunctl. man tunctl.
    >>> 
    >> 
    >> Thanks, got it working. Might be worth to add a little note in
    >> the ecos documentation.

    Sergei> I would prefer to exclude setuid setup at all from install
    Sergei> rules. I install tools with prefix
    Sergei> --prefix=${HOME}/ecos/tools, and I hate to type sudo make
    Sergei> install; sudo chown -R ...

Do please remember that rawether is intended to work with real
ethernet devices as well, not just /dev/net/tun. In fact that is a lot
easier nowadays than it used to be: just plug in a cheap USB ethernet
device and you have an eth1 device for use by the synthetic target.
Further, using a real ethernet device makes the synthetic target
behave a lot more like a typical embedded target when it comes to
things like accessing a dhcp server.

AFAIK there is no easy way for rawether to access a real ethernet
device unless it is setuid root.

Second, I just tried /dev/net/tun on a Fedora 10 installation. There
is no tunctl utility, and rawether accessed the tun device without
problems. So presumably the problems you were experiencing are
specific to certain distributions. If anybody wants to add a paragraph
to the docs about using tunctl on particular distributions, feel free.

Bart

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