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From: Oleg Uzenkov <o.uzenkov@unicore.co.ua>
To: Sergei Gavrikov <sergei.gavrikov@gmail.com>
Cc: eCos Discussion <ecos-discuss@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [ECOS] small custom bootloader to start an app stored in flash
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:13:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <544A183B.6090206@unicore.co.ua> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1410241058110.4666@sg-pc.belvok.com>


Thanks,

I will give it a try with ROM builds.
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2014, Oleg Uzenkov wrote:
>
>> Redboot is a great piece of software. It is just I found that when you
>> enable some important features like FIS support, Redboot reserves
>> extra space in RAM memory.
>> The size of this reserved extra space in RAM equals to the size of the
>> largest section size in Flash. In case of stm32f407 it is 128KB.
>> Internal RAM is 128KB. As John Dallaway pointed out there is very
>> little sense in using Redboot without enough of external RAM on
>> stm32f4 devices. For example for Kinetis it is a different story, the
>> flash sections are uniform and quite small.
>>
>> For small systems external RAM chip significantly adds up to the cost
>> of a device.
>   
> I understand John's point and agree with him. But, he told about using
> debug infrastructure of RedBoot (debugging eCos applications in RAM).
> But, RedBoot is *debug* and *bootstrap* environment for eCos. I pointed
> on another side of RedBoot, *bootstrap*. You can quite run eCos [ROM]
> builds from FIS.

FIS support requires 128KB of ram on stm32.

> Those [ROM] applications may utilize all RAM (128K +
> 64K) on your target. On start ROM application just does overlay RedBoot
> memory.  You saw that yesterday with Rainer's approach (exec). If you
> cannot manage run [ROM] applications with RedBoot command 'go', just
> implement one new command for RedBoot, e.g. 'xip' (as RedBoot already
> uses 'exec' name to run Linux kernel).

As far as I understand, 'go' command should work in theory as it sets 
program counter (pc) to the address of Entry point (not sure about stack 
pointer).

To make a jump  we need to set stack pointer and program counter. And 
this can be implemented inside a new 'xip' command.

> RedBoot will let you to use
> FLASH I/O, load any images, use start scripts, etc., etc. Of course it
> is my opinion only.
>
> Sergei


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-24  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-21  8:27 Oleg Uzenkov
2014-10-21 11:02 ` Gary Thomas
2014-10-21 13:25 ` Edgar Grimberg
     [not found] ` <CAPrjMDAi=cqTSQ-d-c9FF53W-c6=v0j8rzSLQfuTcBQUY43Zpw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-10-22 11:08   ` Oleg Uzenkov
2014-10-22 13:17     ` Edgar Grimberg
2014-10-22 14:40       ` Oleg Uzenkov
2014-10-23  9:55         ` Edgar Grimberg
2014-10-23 12:53           ` Edgar Grimberg
2014-10-23 15:03             ` Oleg Uzenkov
2014-10-23 19:25               ` Rainer Arndt
2014-10-23 21:21               ` Sergei Gavrikov
2014-10-24  7:44                 ` Oleg Uzenkov
2014-10-24  8:36                   ` Sergei Gavrikov
2014-10-24  9:13                     ` Oleg Uzenkov [this message]
2014-10-24  9:13                     ` Sergei Gavrikov
2014-10-22 19:01     ` Rainer Arndt
2014-10-23 11:50       ` Oleg Uzenkov

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