From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16828 invoked by alias); 12 Oct 2015 23:57:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ecos-discuss-help@ecos.sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org Received: (qmail 16815 invoked by uid 89); 12 Oct 2015 23:57:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mail0.rbsov.bogons.net Received: from mail0.rbsov.bogons.net (HELO mail0.rbsov.bogons.net) (85.158.43.12) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 23:57:18 +0000 Received: from www.bogons.net ([2001:4b10:0:1::134] helo=virtual.bogons.net) by mail0.rbsov.bogons.net with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zlmxu-00038P-NB; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 00:57:15 +0100 Received: from jifvik.dyndns.org (jifvik.dyndns.org [85.158.45.40]) by virtual.bogons.net (8.10.2+Sun/8.11.2) with ESMTP id t9CNvFe23679; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 00:57:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from lert.jifvik.org (lert.jifvik.org [172.31.1.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jifvik.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325D43FE4; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 00:57:14 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <561C48D9.1010608@jifvik.org> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 23:57:00 -0000 From: Jonathan Larmour User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Rauch , ecos-discuss@ecos.sourceware.org References: <00d901d1000b$cadebbd0$609c3370$@itrgmbh.de> In-Reply-To: <00d901d1000b$cadebbd0$609c3370$@itrgmbh.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Report: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=disabled version=3.4.0 Subject: Re: [ECOS] Re: is eCos dying? X-SW-Source: 2015-10/txt/msg00008.txt.bz2 On 06/10/15 08:51, Richard Rauch wrote: > You do not see a lot of activities in the eCos community because of politics > and commercial interests. [snip] > This is just a guess, but in my opinion the reason for this is, that the > maintainers of public eCos are as well strongly commercial oriented. > It seems, they will not put any port to official open source repository if > it could disturb commercial interests (eCosCentric/eCosPro...). If nothing else, look at the list at the bottom of http://ecos.sourceware.org/intouch.html and you'll see that only two of the maintainers (myself and Nick) are in eCosCentric - severely outnumbered! If a maintainer has the time and ability to go through, review and potentially rework any submission, then any of them can. If you think there has been some secret agreement behind-the-scenes between all maintainers to deliberately stop contributions being committed you are very mistaken. > Additionally I need to say, that you will be thwarted, if you try to offer > commercial activities as well. If you are not absolutely carefully about > usage of eCos name and logo, you will get some letters from eCosCentric's > lawyer! I'm not speaking for eCosCentric here, and I definitely don't know all the details (not my dept.!), but I do know that if any trademark holder knowingly fails to enforce an abuse of a trademark (such as incorporating that trademark into your own mark which you then assert as a trademark), then that trademark is being diluted and as a result can become legally unenforceable (you can't enforce against one abuse, if you deliberately turned a blind eye to another). And obviously no-one would want to lose all protection of the eCos trademark entirely. That's my take on it anyway. Jifl -- Before posting, please read the FAQ: http://ecos.sourceware.org/fom/ecos and search the list archive: http://ecos.sourceware.org/ml/ecos-discuss