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From: Frank Pagliughi <fpagliughi@mindspring.com>
To: ecos-discuss@ecos.sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [ECOS] Re: is eCos dying?
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 00:57:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <561DA843.8030706@mindspring.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <561CF962.5010808@googlemail.com>

I would ask if the maintainers are still actively involved in the 
project. Are contributions being made by them, or anyone else, and if 
so, are they being discussed, reviewed, and committed? Is the 
documentation up to date? Would a person who finds the project on the 
Internet be assured by the state of what is there to want to invest the 
time and effort to try to learn and master the details of it? Would a 
developer be willing to stake his reputation by bringing the project to 
his group for use on their new device?

If the answer is "no" to most of these questions, then an open-source 
project is dead.

At that point, if there is anyone else who still cares about it, then 
it's probably time for a fork or for the maintainers to hand the keys over.

Frank

On 10/13/2015 08:30 AM, David Fernandez wrote:
> (resent, as was sent from company email with likely privacy disclaimer 
> attached)
>
> On 13/10/15 00:57, Jonathan Larmour wrote:
>> On 06/10/15 08:51, Richard Rauch wrote:
>>> You do not see a lot of activities in the eCos community because of 
>>> politics
>>> and commercial interests.
>> [snip]
>>> This is just a guess, but in my opinion the reason for this is, that 
>>> the
>>> maintainers of public eCos are as well strongly commercial oriented.
>>> It seems, they will not put any port to official open source 
>>> repository if
>>> it could disturb commercial interests (eCosCentric/eCosPro...).
>> If nothing else, look at the list at the bottom of
>> http://ecos.sourceware.org/intouch.html and you'll see that only two 
>> of the
>> maintainers (myself and Nick) are in eCosCentric - severely 
>> outnumbered! If a
>> maintainer has the time and ability to go through, review and 
>> potentially
>> rework any submission, then any of them can. If you think there has 
>> been some
>> secret agreement behind-the-scenes between all maintainers to 
>> deliberately
>> stop contributions being committed you are very mistaken.
>
> I would say that nobody looks at the list these days, specially 
> ecos-devel.
>
> I had some things I managed to put in a state I could submit as valid 
> patches, but nobody answers the emails, so you end up forgetting about 
> it and keeping private patches.
>
> Is there any way people can contribute currently, I mean actively 
> contribute, rather than just throw stuff into a black hole?
>
> Otherwise, it might be better to just be clear and say that opensource 
> eCos is meant as an evaluation repository, and eCosCentric should be 
> the way to go for any real contributions and in business use of eCos.
>
> Regards
> David Fernandez
>
>


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-14  0:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-06  7:51 Richard Rauch
2015-10-06 12:59 ` Mikhail Matusov
2015-10-07  9:59   ` AW: " Richard Rauch
2015-10-12 23:57 ` Jonathan Larmour
2015-10-13 12:31   ` David Fernandez
2015-10-14  0:57     ` Frank Pagliughi [this message]
2015-10-13 17:20   ` Grant Edwards
2015-10-13 19:38 ` Alex Schuilenburg
2015-10-14 23:05 ` Sergei Gavrikov
     [not found] <349750926.354427.1443800101065.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
2015-10-03  8:15 ` John Dallaway
2015-10-04  8:30   ` Stanislav Meduna
2015-10-04 15:00     ` Grant Edwards

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