From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 74877 invoked by alias); 14 Oct 2015 00:57:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ecos-discuss-help@ecos.sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org Received: (qmail 74856 invoked by uid 89); 14 Oct 2015 00:57:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_20,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: vms173003pub.verizon.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (HELO vms173003pub.verizon.net) (206.46.173.3) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES128-SHA encrypted) ESMTPS; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 00:57:16 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.5] ([72.70.77.70]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.34.0 64bit (built Oct 14 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NW6009YJQMGSZ70@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for ecos-discuss@ecos.sourceware.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:56:54 -0500 (CDT) X-CMAE-Score: 0 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Nc0brD34 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=aK4welFQQRhY2KmZh62BjQ==:117 a=84BadPHTAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=5lJygRwiOn0A:10 a=CCpqsmhAAAAA:8 a=ZgVDa335rcbuk_8GjC8A:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=OAydLrUEjDoA:10 To: ecos-discuss@ecos.sourceware.org References: <561C48D9.1010608@jifvik.org> <561CF962.5010808@googlemail.com> From: Frank Pagliughi Message-id: <561DA843.8030706@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 00:57:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-version: 1.0 In-reply-to: <561CF962.5010808@googlemail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Subject: Re: [ECOS] Re: is eCos dying? X-SW-Source: 2015-10/txt/msg00012.txt.bz2 I would ask if the maintainers are still actively involved in the project. Are contributions being made by them, or anyone else, and if so, are they being discussed, reviewed, and committed? Is the documentation up to date? Would a person who finds the project on the Internet be assured by the state of what is there to want to invest the time and effort to try to learn and master the details of it? Would a developer be willing to stake his reputation by bringing the project to his group for use on their new device? If the answer is "no" to most of these questions, then an open-source project is dead. At that point, if there is anyone else who still cares about it, then it's probably time for a fork or for the maintainers to hand the keys over. Frank On 10/13/2015 08:30 AM, David Fernandez wrote: > (resent, as was sent from company email with likely privacy disclaimer > attached) > > On 13/10/15 00:57, Jonathan Larmour wrote: >> On 06/10/15 08:51, Richard Rauch wrote: >>> You do not see a lot of activities in the eCos community because of >>> politics >>> and commercial interests. >> [snip] >>> This is just a guess, but in my opinion the reason for this is, that >>> the >>> maintainers of public eCos are as well strongly commercial oriented. >>> It seems, they will not put any port to official open source >>> repository if >>> it could disturb commercial interests (eCosCentric/eCosPro...). >> If nothing else, look at the list at the bottom of >> http://ecos.sourceware.org/intouch.html and you'll see that only two >> of the >> maintainers (myself and Nick) are in eCosCentric - severely >> outnumbered! If a >> maintainer has the time and ability to go through, review and >> potentially >> rework any submission, then any of them can. If you think there has >> been some >> secret agreement behind-the-scenes between all maintainers to >> deliberately >> stop contributions being committed you are very mistaken. > > I would say that nobody looks at the list these days, specially > ecos-devel. > > I had some things I managed to put in a state I could submit as valid > patches, but nobody answers the emails, so you end up forgetting about > it and keeping private patches. > > Is there any way people can contribute currently, I mean actively > contribute, rather than just throw stuff into a black hole? > > Otherwise, it might be better to just be clear and say that opensource > eCos is meant as an evaluation repository, and eCosCentric should be > the way to go for any real contributions and in business use of eCos. > > Regards > David Fernandez > > -- Before posting, please read the FAQ: http://ecos.sourceware.org/fom/ecos and search the list archive: http://ecos.sourceware.org/ml/ecos-discuss