* [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
@ 2009-09-01 6:24 Alex Lindeijer
2009-09-01 14:36 ` Alex Lindeijer
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From: Alex Lindeijer @ 2009-09-01 6:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ecos-discuss
Hi
We are running a serial port on 38400 baud and are seeing loss of Rx
bytes. When unplugging the ethernet cable we have no problems.
We are using a MPC8541, it has a PC16550D programming model for the
UART. I see that the driver uses the FIFO and reads until the FIFO is
empty.
The Ethernet driver is a tsec driver .
We encountered similar problems when writing to flash. We got some
verification/write errors with Ethernet traffic going. In that case we
masked the interrupts while writing to flash. But we don't want to do
that when receiving bytes on the serial port of course.
Has anybody else encounter such problems? Any hints in were to look? We
have been looking into this now for some time and are getting a bit
desperate.....;-(
Cheers
Alex Lindeijer
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* RE: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
2009-09-01 6:24 [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART Alex Lindeijer
@ 2009-09-01 14:36 ` Alex Lindeijer
2009-09-01 15:24 ` Gary Thomas
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From: Alex Lindeijer @ 2009-09-01 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alex Lindeijer, ecos-discuss
Hi All
This problem is fixed. The drivers that came with our Python MPC8541
eval board, acknowledged the ethernet interrput in the DSR (after
processing!) and not in the ISR.
It seems to work fine now.
/Alex
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From: ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org
[mailto:ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org] On Behalf Of Alex
Lindeijer
Sent: 1. september 2009 08:24
To: ecos-discuss@sourceware.org
Subject: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
Hi
We are running a serial port on 38400 baud and are seeing loss of Rx
bytes. When unplugging the ethernet cable we have no problems.
We are using a MPC8541, it has a PC16550D programming model for the
UART. I see that the driver uses the FIFO and reads until the FIFO is
empty.
The Ethernet driver is a tsec driver .
We encountered similar problems when writing to flash. We got some
verification/write errors with Ethernet traffic going. In that case we
masked the interrupts while writing to flash. But we don't want to do
that when receiving bytes on the serial port of course.
Has anybody else encounter such problems? Any hints in were to look? We
have been looking into this now for some time and are getting a bit
desperate.....;-(
Cheers
Alex Lindeijer
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* Re: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
2009-09-01 14:36 ` Alex Lindeijer
@ 2009-09-01 15:24 ` Gary Thomas
2009-09-01 16:30 ` SV: " Alex Lindeijer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Gary Thomas @ 2009-09-01 15:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alex Lindeijer; +Cc: ecos-discuss
On 09/01/2009 08:36 AM, Alex Lindeijer wrote:
> Hi All
> This problem is fixed. The drivers that came with our Python MPC8541
> eval board, acknowledged the ethernet interrput in the DSR (after
> processing!) and not in the ISR.
> It seems to work fine now.
How does that have anything to do with losing bytes on the UART?
BTW, IMO it's not safe/proper to acknowledge the interrupt in the ISR.
The ISR masks the interrupt and only after the network stack has fully
processed the data is it acknowledged and unmasked. Acking the interrupt
in the ISR could lead to missing some interrupts.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org
> [mailto:ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org] On Behalf Of Alex
> Lindeijer
> Sent: 1. september 2009 08:24
> To: ecos-discuss@sourceware.org
> Subject: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
>
> Hi
> We are running a serial port on 38400 baud and are seeing loss of Rx
> bytes. When unplugging the ethernet cable we have no problems.
> We are using a MPC8541, it has a PC16550D programming model for the
> UART. I see that the driver uses the FIFO and reads until the FIFO is
> empty.
> The Ethernet driver is a tsec driver .
> We encountered similar problems when writing to flash. We got some
> verification/write errors with Ethernet traffic going. In that case we
> masked the interrupts while writing to flash. But we don't want to do
> that when receiving bytes on the serial port of course.
>
> Has anybody else encounter such problems? Any hints in were to look? We
> have been looking into this now for some time and are getting a bit
> desperate.....;-(
>
> Cheers
> Alex Lindeijer
>
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* SV: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
2009-09-01 15:24 ` Gary Thomas
@ 2009-09-01 16:30 ` Alex Lindeijer
2009-09-01 19:01 ` Christophe Coutand
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Alex Lindeijer @ 2009-09-01 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gary Thomas; +Cc: ecos-discuss
Hi
When we were missing bytes on the serial port and we pulled the ethernet cable out, we received all bytes on the serial port. First we tried increasing the serial port interrupt priority since it actually tolerates less interupt latency than the ethernet port.
I'll have to study the MPC8541 reference guide more later but as we understand it:
The interupt controller in the MPC8541 needs to have the interrupt acknowledge before it handles any new interrupts(like from the UART). So, in the ISR of the ethernet driver we mask the ethernet interrupt and acknowledge the interrupt which allows the interrupt controller to process new interupts /call ISRs. In the DSR of the ethernet driver we service the ethernet interrupt and unmask it when done.
If we acknowledge the interrupt before leaving the DSR, no other interrupt given by the interrupt controller whilst processing the ethernet frames. That is why we lost bytes on the serial port.
At least that is our theory, which I have to confirm by checking the documentation closer.
In pratice we are now receiving/sending traffic on both ethernet and serial port undisturbed.
This also the we I have seen it done in other drivers (also an alternative tsec driver).
This is we think it works. But I appreciate any comments and tips. Interupt handling and driver software is certainly not my strongest point.
Cheers
Alex
________________________________
Fra: Gary Thomas [mailto:gary@mlbassoc.com]
Sendt: ti 01.09.2009 17:24
Til: Alex Lindeijer
Kopi: ecos-discuss@sourceware.org
Emne: Re: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
On 09/01/2009 08:36 AM, Alex Lindeijer wrote:
> Hi All
> This problem is fixed. The drivers that came with our Python MPC8541
> eval board, acknowledged the ethernet interrput in the DSR (after
> processing!) and not in the ISR.
> It seems to work fine now.
How does that have anything to do with losing bytes on the UART?
BTW, IMO it's not safe/proper to acknowledge the interrupt in the ISR.
The ISR masks the interrupt and only after the network stack has fully
processed the data is it acknowledged and unmasked. Acking the interrupt
in the ISR could lead to missing some interrupts.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org
> [mailto:ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org] On Behalf Of Alex
> Lindeijer
> Sent: 1. september 2009 08:24
> To: ecos-discuss@sourceware.org
> Subject: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
>
> Hi
> We are running a serial port on 38400 baud and are seeing loss of Rx
> bytes. When unplugging the ethernet cable we have no problems.
> We are using a MPC8541, it has a PC16550D programming model for the
> UART. I see that the driver uses the FIFO and reads until the FIFO is
> empty.
> The Ethernet driver is a tsec driver .
> We encountered similar problems when writing to flash. We got some
> verification/write errors with Ethernet traffic going. In that case we
> masked the interrupts while writing to flash. But we don't want to do
> that when receiving bytes on the serial port of course.
>
> Has anybody else encounter such problems? Any hints in were to look? We
> have been looking into this now for some time and are getting a bit
> desperate.....;-(
>
> Cheers
> Alex Lindeijer
>
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MLB Associates | Embedded world
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* RE: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
2009-09-01 16:30 ` SV: " Alex Lindeijer
@ 2009-09-01 19:01 ` Christophe Coutand
2009-09-02 9:01 ` Alex Lindeijer
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From: Christophe Coutand @ 2009-09-01 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alex Lindeijer; +Cc: ecos-discuss
Hi Alex,
I'm curious, what does the acknowledge routine do? Is it just writing to
the End Of Interrupt (EOI) register?
Christophe
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From: ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org
[mailto:ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org] On Behalf Of Alex
Lindeijer
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:30 PM
To: Gary Thomas
Cc: ecos-discuss@sourceware.org
Subject: SV: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
Hi
When we were missing bytes on the serial port and we pulled the ethernet
cable out, we received all bytes on the serial port. First we tried
increasing the serial port interrupt priority since it actually
tolerates less interupt latency than the ethernet port.
I'll have to study the MPC8541 reference guide more later but as we
understand it:
The interupt controller in the MPC8541 needs to have the interrupt
acknowledge before it handles any new interrupts(like from the UART).
So, in the ISR of the ethernet driver we mask the ethernet interrupt and
acknowledge the interrupt which allows the interrupt controller to
process new interupts /call ISRs. In the DSR of the ethernet driver we
service the ethernet interrupt and unmask it when done.
If we acknowledge the interrupt before leaving the DSR, no other
interrupt given by the interrupt controller whilst processing the
ethernet frames. That is why we lost bytes on the serial port.
At least that is our theory, which I have to confirm by checking the
documentation closer.
In pratice we are now receiving/sending traffic on both ethernet and
serial port undisturbed.
This also the we I have seen it done in other drivers (also an
alternative tsec driver).
This is we think it works. But I appreciate any comments and tips.
Interupt handling and driver software is certainly not my strongest
point.
Cheers
Alex
________________________________
Fra: Gary Thomas [mailto:gary@mlbassoc.com]
Sendt: ti 01.09.2009 17:24
Til: Alex Lindeijer
Kopi: ecos-discuss@sourceware.org
Emne: Re: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
On 09/01/2009 08:36 AM, Alex Lindeijer wrote:
> Hi All
> This problem is fixed. The drivers that came with our Python MPC8541
> eval board, acknowledged the ethernet interrput in the DSR (after
> processing!) and not in the ISR.
> It seems to work fine now.
How does that have anything to do with losing bytes on the UART?
BTW, IMO it's not safe/proper to acknowledge the interrupt in the ISR.
The ISR masks the interrupt and only after the network stack has fully
processed the data is it acknowledged and unmasked. Acking the
interrupt
in the ISR could lead to missing some interrupts.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org
> [mailto:ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org] On Behalf Of Alex
> Lindeijer
> Sent: 1. september 2009 08:24
> To: ecos-discuss@sourceware.org
> Subject: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
>
> Hi
> We are running a serial port on 38400 baud and are seeing loss of Rx
> bytes. When unplugging the ethernet cable we have no problems.
> We are using a MPC8541, it has a PC16550D programming model for the
> UART. I see that the driver uses the FIFO and reads until the FIFO is
> empty.
> The Ethernet driver is a tsec driver .
> We encountered similar problems when writing to flash. We got some
> verification/write errors with Ethernet traffic going. In that case we
> masked the interrupts while writing to flash. But we don't want to do
> that when receiving bytes on the serial port of course.
>
> Has anybody else encounter such problems? Any hints in were to look?
We
> have been looking into this now for some time and are getting a bit
> desperate.....;-(
>
> Cheers
> Alex Lindeijer
>
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MLB Associates | Embedded world
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* RE: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
2009-09-01 19:01 ` Christophe Coutand
@ 2009-09-02 9:01 ` Alex Lindeijer
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From: Alex Lindeijer @ 2009-09-02 9:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christophe Coutand; +Cc: ecos-discuss
Yes in case og an interrupt from the PIC it doing only that. In case of
a CPM interupt it for acknowledges it in the CPM and then the PIC(EOI)
/Alex
-----Original Message-----
From: Christophe Coutand [mailto:ccoutand@stmi.com]
Sent: 1. september 2009 21:02
To: Alex Lindeijer
Cc: ecos-discuss@sourceware.org
Subject: RE: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
Hi Alex,
I'm curious, what does the acknowledge routine do? Is it just writing to
the End Of Interrupt (EOI) register?
Christophe
-----Original Message-----
From: ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org
[mailto:ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org] On Behalf Of Alex
Lindeijer
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:30 PM
To: Gary Thomas
Cc: ecos-discuss@sourceware.org
Subject: SV: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
Hi
When we were missing bytes on the serial port and we pulled the ethernet
cable out, we received all bytes on the serial port. First we tried
increasing the serial port interrupt priority since it actually
tolerates less interupt latency than the ethernet port.
I'll have to study the MPC8541 reference guide more later but as we
understand it:
The interupt controller in the MPC8541 needs to have the interrupt
acknowledge before it handles any new interrupts(like from the UART).
So, in the ISR of the ethernet driver we mask the ethernet interrupt and
acknowledge the interrupt which allows the interrupt controller to
process new interupts /call ISRs. In the DSR of the ethernet driver we
service the ethernet interrupt and unmask it when done.
If we acknowledge the interrupt before leaving the DSR, no other
interrupt given by the interrupt controller whilst processing the
ethernet frames. That is why we lost bytes on the serial port.
At least that is our theory, which I have to confirm by checking the
documentation closer.
In pratice we are now receiving/sending traffic on both ethernet and
serial port undisturbed.
This also the we I have seen it done in other drivers (also an
alternative tsec driver).
This is we think it works. But I appreciate any comments and tips.
Interupt handling and driver software is certainly not my strongest
point.
Cheers
Alex
________________________________
Fra: Gary Thomas [mailto:gary@mlbassoc.com]
Sendt: ti 01.09.2009 17:24
Til: Alex Lindeijer
Kopi: ecos-discuss@sourceware.org
Emne: Re: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
On 09/01/2009 08:36 AM, Alex Lindeijer wrote:
> Hi All
> This problem is fixed. The drivers that came with our Python MPC8541
> eval board, acknowledged the ethernet interrput in the DSR (after
> processing!) and not in the ISR.
> It seems to work fine now.
How does that have anything to do with losing bytes on the UART?
BTW, IMO it's not safe/proper to acknowledge the interrupt in the ISR.
The ISR masks the interrupt and only after the network stack has fully
processed the data is it acknowledged and unmasked. Acking the
interrupt
in the ISR could lead to missing some interrupts.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org
> [mailto:ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org] On Behalf Of Alex
> Lindeijer
> Sent: 1. september 2009 08:24
> To: ecos-discuss@sourceware.org
> Subject: [ECOS] Ethernet traffic causing loss of bytes on UART
>
> Hi
> We are running a serial port on 38400 baud and are seeing loss of Rx
> bytes. When unplugging the ethernet cable we have no problems.
> We are using a MPC8541, it has a PC16550D programming model for the
> UART. I see that the driver uses the FIFO and reads until the FIFO is
> empty.
> The Ethernet driver is a tsec driver .
> We encountered similar problems when writing to flash. We got some
> verification/write errors with Ethernet traffic going. In that case we
> masked the interrupts while writing to flash. But we don't want to do
> that when receiving bytes on the serial port of course.
>
> Has anybody else encounter such problems? Any hints in were to look?
We
> have been looking into this now for some time and are getting a bit
> desperate.....;-(
>
> Cheers
> Alex Lindeijer
>
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MLB Associates | Embedded world
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