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From: Michael Jones <mjones@linear.com>
To: Ilija Kocho <ilijak@siva.com.mk>
Cc: eCos Discussion <ecos-discuss@ecos.sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [ECOS] Kinetis CYG_HAL_STARTUP_VAR conflict
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 15:44:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B400AE39-534E-4219-A95F-809203F5FF5B@linear.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50BB299F.5070404@siva.com.mk>

IIija,

In my case, I already have an application in MQX, and it fits in a K60N512 with room to spare. There is a lot of value in applications that have minimum component count, and minimum cost. My goal is to port the application to eCos so that I de-constrain the target choice. The eCos architecture is similar enough to MQX to make the port practical. For this application to work, I will have to add support for I2C, create a disk from part of the FLASH (MQX can do this through the BSP and Posix calls), use an SD card, use serial, and ethernet.

The real constraints on the application are fast handling of interrupts and accurate timers triggering small amounts of time sensitive IO tasks. Memory is not such an issue.

Once I get a hello world working that does not depend on external memory, I'll post a bug and my results, etc.

Mike


On Dec 2, 2012, at 3:12 AM, Ilija Kocho <ilijak@siva.com.mk> wrote:

> Hi Mike
> 
> On 01.12.2012 22:07, Michael Jones wrote:
>> BACKGROUND
>> ----------------------
>> 
>> I am having a little bit of trouble trying to get my first hello world app on a K60 Tower Board.
>> 
>> I have RedBoot running from ROM and I can ping the ethernet port, so presumably I will eventually get GDB to talk to it.
>> 
>> I am having trouble building an initial app that uses the ROM monitor. Following the example in the eCos book, I went hunting for CYGSEM_HAL_USE_ROM_MONITOR, enabled it and then set startup to SRAM. This seems the obvious way to run and debug.
>> 
>> PROBLEM
>> --------------
>> 
>> I am getting a conflict I don't know how to resolve. I have set CYG_HAL_STARTUP_VAR = SRAM. This results in CYG_HAL_STARTUP = SRAM by calculation.
>> 
>> But I get a conflict from CYGSEM_HAL_USE_ROM_MONITOR that wants CYG_HAL_STARTUP == RAM
> SRAM and RAM startups are not the same. RAM startup is intended for
> using under control of RedBoot and has some special properties: RAM,
> unlike other startup types uses RedBoot's vectors, etc...
> 
> SRAM startup is kind of "stand-alone" in a way it does not depend on
> RedBoot (but depends on JTAG debugger)
> 
>> QUESTIONS
>> -----------------
>> 
>> 1) Can I ignore this conflict and get the monitor and app to work?
> I'm afraid not because, SRAM startup collides with RedBoot.
>> 
>> 2) Is there a better approach?
> The right approach is to create RAM startup. It could live on variant
> level and be available to all Kinetis platforms (though some may have
> too little memory to utilize it).
> The attached patches should produce proper variant-level RAM startup.
> 
> I did not add it from beginning since I consider internal SRAM too
> little for practical work, seems that other people have different view.
> You are not the first to look for.
> This being said, I am considering to add this startup to the main
> repository. Would you open a Bug on Bugzilla?
> 
>> 
>> 3) Has anyone succeeded to use RedBoot on the K60 and can you supply an example config project that works that I can look at?
> You may want to try this:
> http://bugs.ecos.sourceware.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1001623 but beware, it
> is experimental, and at present it may be broken as it's not synced with
> recent Kinetis patches.
> Take care not to lock your Kinetis flash - You have been warned :)
> 
> I hope this helps and I would appreciate feedback.
> 
> Regards
> Ilija
> <kinetis_var_ram-startup_cdl_121202.diff><kinetis_var_ram-startup_mlt_121202.diff>-- 
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> and search the list archive: http://ecos.sourceware.org/ml/ecos-discuss


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-02 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-01 21:07 Michael Jones
2012-12-02  7:13 ` Michael Jones
2012-12-02 10:12 ` Ilija Kocho
2012-12-02 15:44   ` Michael Jones [this message]
2012-12-02 16:52     ` Ilija Kocho
2012-12-02 17:53       ` Michael Jones
2012-12-02 19:14         ` Ilija Kocho
2012-12-02 20:58         ` Ilija Kocho
2012-12-03  0:01   ` Michael Jones
2012-12-03 19:13     ` Ilija Kocho
2012-12-04  2:18       ` Michael Jones
2012-12-04  2:31         ` Michael Jones
2012-12-04  5:32       ` Michael Jones
2012-12-04  8:42         ` Ilija Kocho
2012-12-04  8:51           ` Ilija Kocho

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