From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25909 invoked by alias); 1 Mar 2007 18:33:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 25901 invoked by uid 22791); 1 Mar 2007 18:33:26 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from main.gmane.org (HELO ciao.gmane.org) (80.91.229.2) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:33:15 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HMq5X-0002Jz-1X for ecos-discuss@sources.redhat.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:33:11 +0100 Received: from c-76-17-154-185.hsd1.mn.comcast.net ([76.17.154.185]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:33:11 +0100 Received: from grante by c-76-17-154-185.hsd1.mn.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:33:11 +0100 To: ecos-discuss@sources.redhat.com From: Grant Edwards Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:33:00 -0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (Linux) X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact ecos-discuss-help@ecos.sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: ecos-discuss-owner@ecos.sourceware.org Subject: [ECOS] Re: eCos on Windows without Cygwin X-SW-Source: 2007-03/txt/msg00016.txt.bz2 On 2007-03-01, Øyvind Harboe wrote: > If you don't agree that the dependence on Cygwin is hampering eCos, > then don't read further. Windows+Cygwin may indeed suck (IMO Windows+ sucks). Just do the right thing and install Linux. ;) Windows+Cygwin is a royal pain, but it's probably not going away. The tools Altera supplies for it's new 32-bit CPU (NIOS2) are purely Eclipse+GCC based. On Windows, they ship enough of Cygwin along with it to create something that almost works. Rathing than stating that "the dependence on Cygwin is hapering eCos", I prefer to say that "the availability of eCos tools for Cygwin is widening its audience. > Problems w/Cygwin: [lots of problems w/ Cygwin] Yup, Cygwin sucks compared to a real Unix system. So use a real Unix system. > As far as I know, MinGW binaries of GCC toolchains + eCos tools is the > most tantalizing prospect. Except the eCos tools require a lot of support stuff (TCL, bash shell, etc.). I don't see how MinGW binaries of GCC toolchains are going to allow you to run fairly complex TCL and bash programs. > Since a eCos needs are so simple & unchanging, eCos needs aren't really all that simple. > I believe a MinGW based package could live relatively > unchanged for years. > > Does anyone know of any organized efforts to address these > problems? I don't really see how it could work. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! My ELBOW is a remote at FRENCH OUTPOST!! visi.com -- Before posting, please read the FAQ: http://ecos.sourceware.org/fom/ecos and search the list archive: http://ecos.sourceware.org/ml/ecos-discuss