From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19574 invoked by alias); 24 Feb 2003 20:34:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ecos-maintainers-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: ecos-maintainers-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 19521 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2003 20:34:21 -0000 Subject: Re: announcements From: Gary Thomas To: Jonathan Larmour Cc: Alex Schuilenburg , eCos Maintainers , Peter Vandenabeele In-Reply-To: <3E5A8133.2000800@jifvik.org> References: <1046104902.21671.387.camel@hermes.chez-thomas.org> <3E5A658E.4080205@ecoscentric.com> <3E5A8133.2000800@jifvik.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 (1.0.3-4) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:34:00 -0000 Message-Id: <1046118857.31018.931.camel@hermes.chez-thomas.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SW-Source: 2003-02/txt/msg00045.txt.bz2 On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 13:31, Jonathan Larmour wrote: > [ #define MAINTAINERHAT 1 ] > > I should also remind folks that this list is publically archived. > > Alex Schuilenburg wrote: > > Hi again > > > > Gary Thomas wrote: > >> Alex, > >> > >> I would very much like for you to make public clarification of your > >> announcement, as you have done to me privately. > >> > >> The things I find misleading or missing are: > >> * This offer is not coming from the maintainers [at large] > >> * Proceeds are to go toward test farm improvements > >> * The CDROM contents will be available for [free] download > >> All that was present in your text was the [seemingly] commercial plug. > >> > >> If the above statements are indeed true, I think that they should be > >> part of the public information. Even the web page mentioned in > >> the announcement has nothing to say about them, only how to order. > > > > > > Firstly, IMHO putting out a clarification as per my previous response > > may appear to indicate a rift between the maintainers at eCosCentric and > > the rest of the maintainers. > > I don't think it does. A simple quick clarification sounds like a good idea. > > > As far as I know this is not the case. > > There is certainly competition between Mind and eCosCentric, but that is > > a seperate issue. How much is your request influenced by your > > relationship with Mind? > > Although I didn't catch it when I read the message, I can see how it can > be read that way. A simple short follow-up will do no harm. > > > If I were to make any further clarification, I would probably just > > reiterate: > > > > eCosCentric, in conjunction with all the eCos maintainers employed by > > eCosCentric, are pleased to announce that they will be selling eCos > > 2.0 Beta Development CDROMs of the eCos 2.0 Beta release. > > We've been discussing something similar in a private list. It could maybe > be better clarified as something like: > > eCosCentric is accepting pre-orders for a physical CD-ROM release of the > upcoming public v2.0 beta. Note that this service is independent of the > official 2.0 beta release from the eCos maintainers and when the beta is > released it will be freely available for download to all. > > *But* I don't think the whole announcement needs to be restated anyway. > Just a short simple note that says something like "Just in case of > ambiguity, the official eCos 2.0 beta release from the eCos maintainers > will be freely available for download to all." > > It would also be a good principle in future for commercial announcements > to carry some marker like [COMMERCIAL] in the subject line, particularly > for the ecos-announce list. Wish I'd thought of that before :-). Oh well. > Per the private discussion, I agree that this is a reasonable step forward. Sorry to have been a pain, but I did read this the wrong way myself (and I know better). Thanks. -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Gary Thomas | MLB Associates | Consulting for the +1 (970) 229-1963 | Embedded world http://www.mlbassoc.com/ | email: | gpg: http://www.chez-thomas.org/gary/gpg_key.asc ------------------------------------------------------------