From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27814 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 2009 22:01:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 27585 invoked by uid 22791); 17 Feb 2009 22:01:35 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (HELO mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) (81.103.221.47) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:01:28 +0000 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090217220121.GCLT2989.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:01:21 +0000 Received: from cog.dallaway.org.uk ([213.106.81.244]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090217220121.TWPK19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@cog.dallaway.org.uk>; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:01:21 +0000 Received: from cog.dallaway.org.uk (cog.dallaway.org.uk [127.0.0.1]) by cog.dallaway.org.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1HM1IrL010595; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:01:19 GMT Message-ID: <499B33AE.6050608@dallaway.org.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:01:00 -0000 From: John Dallaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Larmour , Bart Veer CC: ecos-maintainers@ecos.sourceware.org Subject: Re: Flash subsystem update References: <4992951D.10004@dallaway.org.uk> <499A12DD.4060609@eCosCentric.com> <499A849D.6030809@dallaway.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <499A849D.6030809@dallaway.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact ecos-maintainers-help@ecos.sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: ecos-maintainers-owner@ecos.sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2009-02/txt/msg00031.txt.bz2 Hi Jifl and Bart John Dallaway wrote: > We need to contain further slippage as far as practically possible and > push forward with eCos 3.0. I would therefore like to ensure we have a > well-understood plan for addressing this issue in a realistic timescale. > Firstly, we need to understand the issues that Bart encountered in > detail. Bart, can you provide this detail today please? Does Jifl's > proposed workaround work for you? Bart, thank you for the details of the technical issues. Jifl, I think Bart makes some valid points regarding a cautious roll out of any revised Flash API. I also appreciate your own perspective regarding adoption the new API as part of the new major version of eCos. Personally, I would prefer that we seize this opportunity to switch API rather than wait for the next major release of eCos beyond 3.0. If we switch now, the onus would be on the eCos community to deliver a verdict on the changes through diligent testing over the beta period and I would hope that the eCos maintainers could commit to verify RedBoot across a diverse sample of the boards we have to hand. We do have the option to extend the beta period, or push out a second beta, if it proves necessary. Jifl, what are your thoughts on all this? John Dallaway