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From: Eric Pouech <eric.pouech@orange.fr>
To: jcb62281@gmail.com, Jacek Caban <jacek@codeweavers.com>
Cc: fortran@gcc.gnu.org, NightStrike <nightstrike@gmail.com>,
	DejaGnu mailing list <dejagnu@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: testsuite under wine
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 09:40:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0bfd557c-aa07-dac5-86f4-104e71593212@orange.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63A3DA04.4060804@gmail.com>

Le 22/12/2022 à 05:16, Jacob Bachmeyer a écrit :
>
>> I think that it would not be enough. The way Windows consoles work is 
>> that we manage complete internal screen buffer and emit output that 
>> synchronizes the buffer with Unix terminal inside conhost.exe 
>> process. It means that its output heavily processed and may be very 
>> different from what application writes to its console handle. While 
>> escape codes discussed in this thread are the most prominent 
>> difference (and that part could, in theory, be improved on our side), 
>> there are more differences. For example, if application writes 
>> "\rA\rB\rC", conhost will process it, update its internal buffer 
>> which changes just one character and cursor position, and emit 
>> sequence to update it in Unix terminal, which could be just "\rC" (or 
>> even "C" if cursor was already at the beginning of the line). Another 
>> example would be long lines: conhost will emit additional EOLs 
>> instead of depending on embedder to wrap the line.
>
> So conhost is essentially a Wine-specific screen(1) in that sense, 
> except that it translates Windows screen buffer manipulations instead 
> of VT100 escape codes?  As I understand ncurses also implements most 
> of this; perhaps simply delegating output to ncurses would solve the 
> problem?  If output were simply delegated to ncurses, (as I 
> understand) setting TERM=dumb should be effective to eliminate escape 
> codes from the output, since the "dumb" terminal does not support them.

unfortunately, things are not as simple as that: on one hand we need to 
mimic Windows behavior, and on the other hand let apps running in wine 
behave like regular posix applications <g>

(Note: conhost(.exe) is not wine specific, it's part of the way windows 
handle the console input/output)

but I agree that wine should provide a (simple) way to disable windows' 
console for cases like this

>
> Alternately, could we have a "transparent" mode in conhost where most 
> processing is bypassed?  Setting TERM=dumb in the environment could 
> reasonably activate this mode, or some other Wine-specific setting 
> could be used.  (maybe "WINETERM=raw"?)
an alternate solution to Jacob's patch is to run wine with none of the 
fd 0,1,2 opened on a (p)tty (assuming dejagnu doesn't require fd 0 from 
console). So something like ./wine what_ever_you_need | tee /dev/null 
2>1 < /dev/null would do
HTH

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-22  8:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-16  2:20 NightStrike
2022-12-16  6:44 ` Thomas Koenig
2022-12-17  0:26   ` NightStrike
2022-12-17 10:52     ` Thomas Koenig
2022-12-17 23:24       ` NightStrike
2022-12-18  3:44         ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2022-12-18 21:13           ` NightStrike
2022-12-19  4:29             ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2022-12-19 10:43               ` Torbjorn SVENSSON
2022-12-19 11:00                 ` NightStrike
2022-12-19 11:13               ` NightStrike
2022-12-20  3:51                 ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2022-12-21 17:37               ` Jacek Caban
2022-12-22  1:01                 ` NightStrike
2022-12-22  4:37                   ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2022-12-23 10:36                     ` NightStrike
2022-12-23 12:43                       ` Eric Pouech
2022-12-24  4:00                       ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2022-12-24 11:05                         ` Mark Wielaard
2023-01-05  2:50                         ` NightStrike
2023-01-06  3:33                           ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2023-01-06  3:44                             ` Jerry D
2023-01-08  7:12                             ` NightStrike
2023-01-11  2:30                               ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2023-01-11  9:33                                 ` NightStrike
2023-01-12  4:11                                   ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2023-01-06  3:41                           ` Jerry D
2022-12-22  4:16                 ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2022-12-22  8:40                   ` Eric Pouech [this message]
2022-12-23  3:51                     ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2022-12-23 23:32                       ` Jacek Caban
2022-12-24  5:33                         ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2023-01-07  1:45                           ` Jacek Caban
2023-01-07  3:58                             ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2023-01-09 16:03                               ` Jacek Caban
2023-01-10  9:19                                 ` NightStrike
2023-01-11  9:10                                   ` NightStrike
2023-01-11 18:41                                   ` NightStrike
2023-01-14 23:36                                     ` NightStrike
2023-01-11  2:44                                 ` Jacob Bachmeyer
2023-01-08  6:47                             ` NightStrike
2023-01-04 15:21                       ` Pedro Alves
2023-01-04 15:45                         ` Eric Pouech
2023-01-04 15:52                           ` Pedro Alves

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