From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39E893858D38 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2023 08:00:57 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 39E893858D38 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmx.de Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gmx.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1686729649; x=1687334449; i=vehre@gmx.de; bh=Rd0FhAPAoiq+bLCsRujMUyQfpvLHvvQ0z9qKDHklv34=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=Sj4bT7/hGTjazzkxNVPAeqyAHLT1qBH1ZXzDbn6qltHCEbmwIItU+SOiiB6DfmS8/xF+VsV r143PyrzvkqdKl+qKKhYfjaJXsW9JlcUOTAB1DtKklG14PHsAdvqiK703YuMcRza+mNL2SxPr ykELueC13ycvYediEzwlfDrDEr8f/g09T9Ndh8655iL9Z5Xj4GFiBx3E17AQZzjdO2Bc7dQHK +a6CIJoPGctOZPdP0AJucBs3lWW2RqdRY7DJhTmIJOTiQ7qOTDZRmZr6Z/pwU+tDrhi6swmoS CUQkYtD4BnTeiQWwgf5y1ooizach/rBWY15arVQ6d0t7B3eV7kkg== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from vepi2 ([80.141.190.195]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MIx3C-1qPEQV1eZu-00KRs6; Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:00:49 +0200 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:00:48 +0200 From: Andre Vehreschild To: Benson Muite Cc: Damian Rouson , Thomas Koenig , Jerry D , Mikael Morin , Paul Richard Thomas , GCC-Fortran-ML , Lexi Pimenidis Subject: Re: Possible funding of gfortran work Message-ID: <20230614100048.76bb4484@vepi2> In-Reply-To: <5863ac7e-b82d-0700-bd1c-364b65378bae@emailplus.org> References: <4697f7be-ac3e-8c5d-f27c-3aec89b5b03f@protonmail.com> <0d923990-0b7a-a1ea-8389-bf3837e73ed0@gmail.com> <737bbf36-04a8-c1e4-b3aa-31121df66013@netcologne.de> <20230527132414.50184389@vepi2> <105c761a-5030-aee5-6587-2783a794f469@gmail.com> <20230530153242.54728d4d@vepi2> <2fa3240f-fbb8-23b6-2a10-24f9a415f729@netcologne.de> <5bde7c1f-3524-7f2e-fd48-a4b97734e2b9@emailplus.org> <2f95809c-8f0b-7d75-ca62-aeee11c6bee0@netcologne.de> <20230531142302.75ec742d@vepi2> <20230601111808.5ed7a9e3@vepi2> <82fbd0b2-41d9-c2b7-1655-816d5681c7c4@emailplus.org> <20230605120707.3a0929d8@vepi2> <5863ac7e-b82d-0700-bd1c-364b65378bae@emailplus.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.38; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:SH1ESKVgRIPTaCAGayUambe1dSi5ywZmV3sh2BZY1QGcVwIdp8I GA0exh7aGKXab+Bkmczrtu0fYANUs25LNOTdNCKi11RQCCNflD4+FbG5pc9iUJ50gGrYHgd QDqpTCXA91jEzegjqkqdmHFM4EzqAh8Ocfue14hPswQoSA4SFMKXgQuYteS462a8OI49eiY u1c+7QC+mb20WFUJJyZsg== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:9IAw+l1pZnk=;IzznDF3MOSfhko49EnaIdD6bgsY vt6RCJMdFHrP/9PGu5hxsEym/b3qAuS1aLAP+uA9uPu106yF7nEespeR6z17ulthj3PrdeuJs M9Ng3TyDVz9wEXeGdePBrkDIB2xwEnEBWcMux1xDm5KLTNhOuTTUkIcmkTKlEf0BkVAkWAsQD 9P+z4k8VaoXoD3qHbI+3RaIKkpdIQGqruZKz1WDr20aMl8EVI22qVgN05tytqiHRrs8he+M3X N5KQKk5/6kCeb+6K82RbvR0DGBjUrzoLR2pgbq1qo1ZS0JzxrZ0JrIByF3jxG6xRKa1qidw/V qJpz2yjyZSS1HXA3lYHtSsQ8SL1PQm1AMWaqE2fMqrvxKpGbgVkuKiV3Hl0d5luWQZpgAziR9 B5P24rUjXTDZaUNMGaLAFEDm7G1VDd6GPMGQtXWzSSyz1SfDsuXA44e27ah5oQ+LGwQ85w4Wd 1qUBAy6rcDIiAFwGPqgOSyoURAMcXerfC6TNh15TyZFCXwCibm8Y16qWvUjqj/pjzmLeZJ6Hc o9gJtEH/umLqfoIUHFP6Om57Eo/vSzf6PqsZqa/7closUjoW4Um83erxMjBxADNpAvgtKzbCo 9hsKK1vhavpjaRxu2rY+DcnMMuizQwhbry85RHUHq7z1/jyt6YXpIdXwq1QaODvkxlSd+eipj LohtPfMlyjCqRsAegNsYIwq+16VFhQHnePvUEl5oOtbKiEgmIGL/eZvAqR7gEa12Jj+CR6eCk Tlk+UQNb3xL5c9yxtEaEsyjyE+Rs48cmb20HLC+6Gt4qgQvEfdM61wvFohbTWIhoWsFr39Mqo bdllDrcdGgvFUESDSg/LMQHWoKVRre6qRXOlGHztEAP+90AFZEH6u4PBZw1boAs1ko9MTUw77 Mqj/dG0dqfX+o9bNDB02I42DSxRNVInXs3BBgxJ9G9pmac68QfYgHVr+Cb58wvYA32PMMduT5 GClgvw== X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,WINNER_SUBJECT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: Hi Benson, thanks for the input. I will incorporate it. Regards, Andre On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 08:34:54 +0300 Benson Muite wrote: > On 6/5/23 13:07, Andre Vehreschild wrote: > > Hi Benson, > > > > thank you for your input. Comments are inline: > > > >> Maybe add Quantum Espresso: > >> https://www.quantum-espresso.org/ > > > Another code: > https://github.com/openmopac/mopac > currently being supported by > https://molssi.org/ > > > done > > > >> R and Octave may also be good examples of use cases. > > > > Mhhh, both are not written in Fortran, right? I don't feel tempted to > > include other programming languages into the references list. It feels= odd > > to me. Any thoughts, anyone? > > > In addition to use of Lapack, many subroutines are written in Fortran. > They have many users in a variety of sectors. Path to parallelization > is unclear, even multicore parallelization will benefit many users. > People in these projects may be willing to give input if asked. > > > >> Some gfortran work has been done as company sponsored in that > >> individuals using the compiler needed it for company work and could w= ork > >> on the compiler on company time. If a large proportion is voluntary = and > >> companies only sponsor small extensions and bug fixes, one might assu= me > >> that if the funding is given, once it is finished, the chances of > >> further work will be very limited. Maybe one can tie into the GNU > >> compiler collection as well, emphasizing the longevity of the project > >> and usefulness of the funding in adding additional capabilities and > >> cleaning up code contributions. Then indicate that new parts that thi= s > >> proposal addresses have primarily been voluntary because they are not > >> yet ready for production use, and this project would make them ready = for > >> production use so that in future maintenance efforts can be made by t= he > >> community (both voluntary and sponsored). > > > > I have added a paragraph about sponsoring of general gfortran work: > > > > GFortran in general stems from a merge of projects that have been supp= orted > > by academic research, commercial needs and in large parts volunteers. > > Funding by companies was mostly done by allowing employees to work on > > features required for the company and donating the code. > > > > Is that what you were trying to add? > > > That seems good. Maybe something like: > > GFortran is a portion of the long lived GCC compiler suite and has > gotten contributions due to academic research needs, commercial needs > and volunteer interest. Industry funding primarily enables employees to > work on features required by the company, for example to support new > processors or ensure performance in a critical company code section. > > Regards, > > Andre > > -- > > Andre Vehreschild * Email: vehre ad gmx dot de > =2D- Andre Vehreschild * Email: vehre ad gmx dot de