From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.19]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 086963858D28 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 05:01:14 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 086963858D28 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=emailplus.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=emailplus.org Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0085132004E7 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 00:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 19 Jan 2023 00:01:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=emailplus.org; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1674104463; x= 1674190863; bh=kcK+vPczySRoUGPuT2L6BVFrloV/XYoVQ53Fpk7jaHE=; b=T 04y+x+MSjFaUa7G5uzVtXyovC2iP8i3gTMNybvWOF+Kx+LPqPx8Gxs31mZE061WV p2Jtxc+1R/dyWrcRIgJnYF68vY7K7EYjmg/ZYVJV11XfhHyPhglZ0FoZublQmgfk Cqf1Ig7B4FL/oh1oMnUVzY6mPOfwhNpZFtR5UyzJ9gSoDXy89IHc0VCnA5f4BdIt UslNT9eTPfYLN6bheC3TkmMbxl2I3caRUtmhOyygOkuYVM4cPSdwT4x64OlfonX2 I53hq0TiewGa/DKZH9gXx0AGnL8nqzcp+N0QC9lEuZy6XuA9fWAyrtgBfOFmGgXp tcLMCVQNbLKg+DSGim1fw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender :subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t=1674104463; x=1674190863; bh=k cK+vPczySRoUGPuT2L6BVFrloV/XYoVQ53Fpk7jaHE=; b=p/YsanSOKBlh/IbQb w8kKpGiCCBVsn45z44oWubOAMuBLt6VSvIZsH/8EdmRdAdTb4LVtEIDJ0uZ4qfil RJLunpkPhHI4Lrs+XbK6S2Q0Up9uCPZluwLzdb3d3532n7P8lXTfuZolTtzJXuSE scyCJsOM/Dl+E6wU527So5PZ15qInk7/E3bCmuOzrl4W4A/1+GqI75jMaKb00H8+ CSFcoCMNMwPJe/Fwh8YO/AjZAYlqbCvqv+wS/NGAgF5h7+kQ40bwRm2FnxYCK1dT 8o3s7qrTkmCG6012s7m9C9lIc+ManypLg5CG/ls1N35FIW1Z3gdB3CdzdVYEeprA gKfRA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedruddtledgjeekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefkffggfgfvfhfhufgjtgfgsehtje ertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpeeuvghnshhonhcuofhuihhtvgcuoegsvghnshhonhgpmhhu ihhtvgesvghmrghilhhplhhushdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepleffvdekhf etteejfeehffffgfeigfegfeefleeghfeggfduueekgffgheekvefgnecuffhomhgrihhn peiiuhhlihhptghhrghtrdgtohhmpdhgihhtqdhsvghnugdqvghmrghilhdrihhonecuve hluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepsggvnhhsohhn pghmuhhithgvsegvmhgrihhlphhluhhsrdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ic1e8415a:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 00:00:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <397bf74b-4528-f4a8-5a7e-88e7ba10bb38@emailplus.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 08:00:54 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.6.0 Content-Language: en-US To: gfortran References: <6e48ab2c-f006-c57f-db39-2b3efb6b30a4@gmail.com> From: Benson Muite Subject: Re: Team Collaboration Considerations In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On 12/26/22 13:19, NightStrike via Fortran wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 03:10 Janne Blomqvist via Fortran > wrote: > >> But in general, yes, I do think IRC is showing its age in an >> increasingly multi-device and mobile world. >> > > Tools like irccloud help here. I guess that doesn't qualify as open source > though. > >> Might a GSOC project examining community health be something that could produce useful recommendations on improving developer efficiency and getting new contributors? The project can also produce a monitoring system that fits the GCC workflow. A chat tool is helpful (Rust uses Zulip https://gcc-rust.zulipchat.com), but it seems understanding how the project develops and keeping track of relevant information are greater obstacles. The GCC workflows is quite different from other open source projects being primarily email based and not using a bug tracker. Email does work well, and has been adapted in Sourcehut, but they have had to introduce a tutorial: https://git-send-email.io/