From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.21]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F084F3857B9B for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2023 05:35:05 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org F084F3857B9B Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=emailplus.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=emailplus.org Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9D33200935; Thu, 8 Jun 2023 01:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 08 Jun 2023 01:35:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=emailplus.org; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type :date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1686202502; x=1686288902; bh=V6huVQqlrE0+jeoLVzE1EB/+f QItmcZDBow6vHzBJP8=; b=ILQdxD2ommbKRWeNDV68ZdyLOJDzCOhdYeXPhXiNh nGZJTG2U5TLsGLa2A5X9IKhyw/xp9za4yFlQnxcxSAZmgYvhMtjXUHEEwlfkyJGL pLuodGsiv0qHvpMA4MdCFqBwzr2GYbIroIhYRgpA9+YQrqJ3T8YW3oKf4HYJfISi TdwJVdyH4MLKiXqm86SwHwaA9g71HOJxzrYJw+YeJY4HPdUDLMDg93o+rfw1Q1/S AZN9f7wXlAWyFI4K3UtHYwiOh6qlclH1ytRm3Jiu8iS69GL91LbSX+LctnRitswF rpXaphRlIt+wklB4J6pW9VtVo/m6r5wvB6DuM2jnVetGQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; t= 1686202502; x=1686288902; bh=V6huVQqlrE0+jeoLVzE1EB/+fQItmcZDBow 6vHzBJP8=; b=EDcYjDKf3rxfBstYYAy1yP7NHIkzFAwtKtC6KjejYSWPGmMKyKB BTf7X9hNwKjbwTI2cLXqVCwbixPwWfksMpL4ppv28DU4x1frVxep45Si8mlzNBpx Ect2sto6npVID8nmQNIcetJ7pU6zTBxAY85NQGFlqjEe8QnfRvZ0e/ghvaVA8+vC yENCZfnjuW8r0zdn6tts1QXfejBjAqro+nGP3eCsxN73yQZzcTKZxAcJnH6tONWo EBsdiW+TEQq/kmRZ0xDI44tNG3uNBcFxOPjQp3tSl+jMszCQEMbAbtivMa9jEy6d PQrqupJEY2/1kE6zTyIIXxoD7lCrj4IB7DQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrgedthedgleeiucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepkfffgggfvfevfhfhufgjtgfgsehtjeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpeeuvghn shhonhcuofhuihhtvgcuoegsvghnshhonhgpmhhuihhtvgesvghmrghilhhplhhushdroh hrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepgfejjefgiefhudekveekfeekhfffteevkeeihfei keduiefhleehudejhefhjeeunecuffhomhgrihhnpehquhgrnhhtuhhmqdgvshhprhgvsh hsohdrohhrghdpghhithhhuhgsrdgtohhmpdhmohhlshhsihdrohhrghenucevlhhushht vghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegsvghnshhonhgpmhhuih htvgesvghmrghilhhplhhushdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ic1e8415a:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 8 Jun 2023 01:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5863ac7e-b82d-0700-bd1c-364b65378bae@emailplus.org> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2023 08:34:54 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 To: Andre Vehreschild Cc: Damian Rouson , Thomas Koenig , Jerry D , Mikael Morin , Paul Richard Thomas , GCC-Fortran-ML , Lexi Pimenidis References: <4697f7be-ac3e-8c5d-f27c-3aec89b5b03f@protonmail.com> <0d923990-0b7a-a1ea-8389-bf3837e73ed0@gmail.com> <737bbf36-04a8-c1e4-b3aa-31121df66013@netcologne.de> <20230527132414.50184389@vepi2> <105c761a-5030-aee5-6587-2783a794f469@gmail.com> <20230530153242.54728d4d@vepi2> <2fa3240f-fbb8-23b6-2a10-24f9a415f729@netcologne.de> <5bde7c1f-3524-7f2e-fd48-a4b97734e2b9@emailplus.org> <2f95809c-8f0b-7d75-ca62-aeee11c6bee0@netcologne.de> <20230531142302.75ec742d@vepi2> <20230601111808.5ed7a9e3@vepi2> <82fbd0b2-41d9-c2b7-1655-816d5681c7c4@emailplus.org> <20230605120707.3a0929d8@vepi2> Content-Language: en-US From: Benson Muite Subject: Re: Possible funding of gfortran work In-Reply-To: <20230605120707.3a0929d8@vepi2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,TXREP,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,WINNER_SUBJECT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On 6/5/23 13:07, Andre Vehreschild wrote: > Hi Benson, > > thank you for your input. Comments are inline: > >> Maybe add Quantum Espresso: >> https://www.quantum-espresso.org/ > Another code: https://github.com/openmopac/mopac currently being supported by https://molssi.org/ > done > >> R and Octave may also be good examples of use cases. > > Mhhh, both are not written in Fortran, right? I don't feel tempted to > include other programming languages into the references list. It feels odd to > me. Any thoughts, anyone? > In addition to use of Lapack, many subroutines are written in Fortran. They have many users in a variety of sectors. Path to parallelization is unclear, even multicore parallelization will benefit many users. People in these projects may be willing to give input if asked. > >> Some gfortran work has been done as company sponsored in that >> individuals using the compiler needed it for company work and could work >> on the compiler on company time. If a large proportion is voluntary and >> companies only sponsor small extensions and bug fixes, one might assume >> that if the funding is given, once it is finished, the chances of >> further work will be very limited. Maybe one can tie into the GNU >> compiler collection as well, emphasizing the longevity of the project >> and usefulness of the funding in adding additional capabilities and >> cleaning up code contributions. Then indicate that new parts that this >> proposal addresses have primarily been voluntary because they are not >> yet ready for production use, and this project would make them ready for >> production use so that in future maintenance efforts can be made by the >> community (both voluntary and sponsored). > > I have added a paragraph about sponsoring of general gfortran work: > > GFortran in general stems from a merge of projects that have been supported by > academic research, commercial needs and in large parts volunteers. Funding by > companies was mostly done by allowing employees to work on features required for > the company and donating the code. > > Is that what you were trying to add? > That seems good. Maybe something like: GFortran is a portion of the long lived GCC compiler suite and has gotten contributions due to academic research needs, commercial needs and volunteer interest. Industry funding primarily enables employees to work on features required by the company, for example to support new processors or ensure performance in a critical company code section. > Regards, > Andre > -- > Andre Vehreschild * Email: vehre ad gmx dot de