From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pl1-x62b.google.com (mail-pl1-x62b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::62b]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6791A385B1BE for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2022 03:52:59 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 6791A385B1BE Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gmail.com Received: by mail-pl1-x62b.google.com with SMTP id k7so8006894pll.6 for ; Sat, 03 Dec 2022 19:52:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:subject:from:to:content-language :user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=iHnxXsuqqMMhO1Ow2Cf06B7NIW5fI/GWffnYTAW9+ZY=; b=Dm5GldkL9C81FJaYEZTKSMl+JTkMZ8eQfSWpV8RrX06+8S1yviE4sRuP4M8EGz8ptL ntclVsscYgifO4qDXxSwPUGJ09NlJlyXHGiSZIV81vN7DIHT6uv37kBgvpAWQ9KgWzeG /Q+unOFqT1OcPzWJp18sRityhnomGeur2lp8aInPly//zpxDBJU/ctAf93GOzbcPyATt HwuJ7yVigEiK4FWaXVVuAVzXXjXkg01PHiWuEfswZVzXtHi3kI6Ui7IOK3qeeLZk0vjK gKrVg7TjszkpD0qClc4pmBtAdyk5pWE0YRde1aIJNT3d/bCo470g3Z1JFR5mkaStdPQD dY+Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:subject:from:to:content-language :user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:x-gm-message-state:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=iHnxXsuqqMMhO1Ow2Cf06B7NIW5fI/GWffnYTAW9+ZY=; b=wB+r5qMTqgQSuWrMZLYslTM6JXnSPHSdLs98du2PrYzj3ldc4zOqwfij11QGawOvyW RhLnH2Vrv8O84aZWUAZjsCo5O5F0oWFZm3YHGgKZ97sVHo3Tpdk/h8MCNTjIJBntk9Ps IjxQ+UqvfZuzS08VFYmLaQ4HVzu/wnJNXYrFj90tsGb5gGkmXteLUxq0kz6Tg8d8y46L sNZrQbZkdboFU+cQoWpry4ocJ2dUaVAO/wQPLCCu8Bz+NB90EXeZ0bs0Zk1jduQ/wqRV 2vPrNEdVVwqdkQ42tWSti98W9EHqinyGsCvnKS/HRDKCmV9WZ6HmAqRHjo8G3thX48+M hodg== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pkuPzyexvGW3JmASYIJduEBoLPu3gwCesieQ+Bdal0lIf6e7SIy meM1CFDHLFu7/ohI9/OHn2upEk4P9+4HFA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf7iBfc6NSf5dCmwPHfjxd6ddGxNYtsXSs86VIPhJiwGNhJZwFhXtVbbKOpVzT2BHR5TT1mLpw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:6b07:b0:189:93a5:bcc6 with SMTP id o7-20020a1709026b0700b0018993a5bcc6mr29851917plk.156.1670125978173; Sat, 03 Dec 2022 19:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.20] ([50.37.188.226]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o13-20020a170902d4cd00b001782aab6318sm8090134plg.68.2022.12.03.19.52.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 03 Dec 2022 19:52:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e48ab2c-f006-c57f-db39-2b3efb6b30a4@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2022 19:52:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.5.0 Content-Language: en-US To: gfortran From: Jerry D Subject: Team Collaboration Considerations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: Hi all, Some of you may recall way back when I established the gfortran IRC channel to facilitate collaboration on gfortran development. I have had some discussions with a few people about advancing to newer technology.  One thing I have learned is that the gcc C++ team has adopted the Mattermost platform.  I have also used Slack and Teams.  There are many others. The gcc IRC channel is still active. The gfortran IRC channel exists but is less used. I would like suggest that gfortranners adopt one of these platforms. The advantages are: 1.  We can post chat questions back and forth via mobile devices without having toopen and scan our emails 2. We can share examples and files easily. 3. Screen shot are easily exchanged. 4. Integration with platforms such as Github. Pros and Cons of some of the choices.  I have only looked at the Free options 1. Slack has adopted some limitations on being able to go back and look at older posts.  Functionally it is quite good and integrates well with github. 2. I looked at Element and Fractal which use the Matrix protocols.  Very open source, not so mature yet. 3. Mattermost looks pretty good and was easy to set up.  The free version is a bit better than Slacks. GCC C++ uses it. If we can get a concensus I would happy to get something set up .  I am leaning to Mattermost.  The mobile phone app is easy and the web browser works fine. I do think in the long run, doing this will help everyone greatly. Any thoughts from all? Regards, Jerry