From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Cc: "fortran@gcc.gnu.org" <fortran@gcc.gnu.org>,
GCC Development <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
Tobias Burnus <tobias@codesourcery.com>,
David Edelsohn <dje.gcc@gmail.com>,
Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 13:24:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFiYyc3kOd6PoD5Q4L=hzr4u61MCm1z=nD6hJy=RChEHDZWsBw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211004100754.GL304296@tucnak>
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 12:08 PM Jakub Jelinek via Fortran
<fortran@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> On powerpc64le-linux target, one can select between two incompatible
> long double formats (both of them are 16-byte), __ibm128 which is
> a sum of two doubles, and __float128 (note, not implemented through
> libquadmath), which is IEEE754 quad format. The default for
> long double can be selected with --with-long-double-format={ieee,ibm}
> configure options.
> AFAIK no distributions switched to --with-long-double-format=ieee
> yet (correct me if I'm wrong), but the goal is that eventually all
> distros switch to that (like they've switched from the --with-long-double-64
> default to --with-long-double-128 on powerpc64-linux, s390*-linux etc. years
> ago).
>
> libstdc++ has been changed already last year, so that the same
> libstdc++.so.6 is ABI compatible with both configurations, in C++ the
> IEEE quad long double mangles differently from IBM double double long
> double and so it is possible (with quite some work) to achieve that.
> Other C++ libraries not shipped as part of gcc are either lucky and don't
> use long double on any of its public APIs, then they are compatible with
> both, or developers can go the same painful way and support both ABIs in
> the same shared library, or they are simply ABI incompatible.
>
> But, I believe --with-long-double-format={ieee,ibm} configure time choice
> doesn't change just the meaning of long double, but also of real(kind=16)
> and complex(kind=32), but Fortran name mangling just appends _ and doesn't
> encode types.
> So, the choices for libgfortran.so.5 are either don't do anything, then
> we have from GCC the same SONAME but based on what --with-long-double-format={ieee,ibm}
> distributions choose ABI incompatible libraries, or bump libgfortran
> SONAME in GCC 12 on all targets (the problem is that it unnecessarily
> changes the SONAME even on targets that don't really need it - unless
> there are important ABI changes in the queue for GCC 12 already), but
> that to be effective would basically require that all distros change to
> --with-long-double-format=ieee together with GCC 12, or change the
> SONAME only on powerpc64le somehow (still the problem that all distros
> have to change at once), or add some kind=16 suffix letter into the SONAME
> if configured --with-long-double-format=ieee (so we'd have
> libgfortran.so.5ieee or whatever, and when we'd bump to libgfortran.so.6
> on all arches libgfortran.so.6ieee etc.).
>
> Or the last option would be to try to make libgfortran.so.5 ABI compatible
> with both choices on powerpc64le-linux. From quick skimming of libgfortran,
> we have lots of generated functions, which use HAVE_GFC_REAL_16 and
> GFC_REAL_16 etc. macros. So, we could perhaps arrange for the compiler
> to use r16i or r17 instead of r16 in the names when real(kind=16) is the
> IEEE quad on powerpc64le and keep using r16 for the IBM double double.
> For the *.F90 generated files, one could achieve it by making sure
> the *r16* files are compiled with -mabi=ibmlongdouble, for
> *r16i* or *r17* with -mabi=ieeelongdouble and otherwise use kind=16 in
> those, for *.c generated files the *GFC_* macros could just ensure that
> it doesn't use long double but __ibm128 or __float128 depending on which one
> is needed.
> But then I see e.g. the io routines to just pass in kind and so
> switch (kind) // or len
> {
> case ...:
> *(GFC_REAL_*) = ...;
> }
> etc. Could we just pretend in the compiler to libgfortran ABI that
> powerpc64le-linux real(kind=16) is kind 17 and make sure that if anything
> would actually think it is 17 bytes it uses 16 instead (though, kind=10
> on x86-64 or i686 also isn't 10 bytes but 16 or 12, right?).
>
> Your thoughts on this?
How does glibc deal with this? There's a load of long double ABI in there.
Richard.
>
> Jakub
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-04 11:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-04 10:07 Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 11:24 ` Richard Biener [this message]
2021-10-04 11:36 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 12:31 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 14:14 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 16:47 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-04 18:33 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-04 19:24 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-05 17:43 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-14 19:39 ` Bill Schmidt
2021-10-15 0:26 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-05 20:16 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-05 21:54 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 6:59 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-06 15:17 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 15:41 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 16:07 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 16:34 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 16:59 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 17:07 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 17:50 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 19:30 ` Peter Bergner
2021-10-06 17:13 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 18:39 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 19:42 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 20:57 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 21:55 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 22:03 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-08 17:53 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-11 20:11 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-15 0:16 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 15:42 ` David Edelsohn
2021-10-06 16:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 17:38 ` David Edelsohn
2021-10-07 3:42 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-08 21:10 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-07 9:48 ` Alastair McKinstry
2021-10-07 9:56 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-07 10:01 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-07 12:43 ` Alastair McKinstry
2021-10-05 21:53 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-10-07 3:35 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-07 6:08 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-07 9:40 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-07 15:24 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-07 15:33 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-08 6:35 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08 7:20 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-08 16:26 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08 19:11 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-08 22:55 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08 23:18 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-09 9:11 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-09 9:19 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-09 9:25 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-09 7:44 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-10 16:14 ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-15 13:50 ` Bill Schmidt
2021-10-15 14:20 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-15 18:05 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-15 18:11 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-15 18:58 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-15 22:24 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-15 22:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-18 19:02 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-28 3:10 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-29 3:36 ` libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes (work in progress patches) Michael Meissner
2021-10-29 19:07 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-29 21:06 ` Michael Meissner
2021-11-01 15:56 ` Bill Schmidt
2021-11-02 15:40 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-29 21:21 ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2021-10-29 22:23 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-30 0:16 ` libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes (2nd patch) Michael Meissner
2021-10-30 9:30 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-30 10:03 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-30 10:31 ` Thomas Koenig
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