From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-x62f.google.com (mail-ej1-x62f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62f]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADFB43849AD9; Fri, 19 Apr 2024 09:36:02 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org ADFB43849AD9 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gmail.com ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org ADFB43849AD9 Authentication-Results: server2.sourceware.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::62f ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1713519369; cv=none; b=xakYAv0qtN6FZLh6tGEhMuXUVCmwNU/seKlos7xqyO09biVEyNl3OzpXzJuxll0ClcBC5wmX++IUgRKXLoEqsfI6P4ykxyZJyp8P8zQtVYOWumyfOqgYq0s0xl4WIZdJviX1TkNrIPMZ7WrOM4ohY2Ls632VW72QFBw+d8c+tKw= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1713519369; c=relaxed/simple; bh=L3+E+6ms60hQDNEjb347QJ4f9lZjqlpZc/tBxuB60No=; h=DKIM-Signature:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID:Subject:To; b=QnAASVkBRjq+gqi3jFqdtL2D0PWE+ERlotAh9qUcEAGMero1PH0m2eysQdnqZlQOtc/TjdnoYhiekX/VyXfU53/h3mKySVh+nv+9ejuwLcNqGtRT/TE5vxs/Ow5RqoocRXRceqfez440A9cIqGQpPlMtSxxLW0Qp/MmRc2528Z0= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org Received: by mail-ej1-x62f.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a557044f2ddso184534366b.2; Fri, 19 Apr 2024 02:36:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1713519360; x=1714124160; darn=gcc.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=L3+E+6ms60hQDNEjb347QJ4f9lZjqlpZc/tBxuB60No=; b=VI9ptDYkM96LXnIP/z1DQUlOXzzGNv8cM0H0KSnuWqr8rHokyP6YCGImMDqZ2WVz6L 3TCRXykQP1KLJ2vzxRQaOb3HrzFu3K0YE/FKlwIrWG8r9MvuUYHa9DVoI9j4bGqNvbb0 QatY8/2zj0ASbzKCmjzTpZ1a14YROemMYD92T5cmqFwtSf2n1CxSEn2PiTjNdHLi6Pv2 3epMA1PuDUdG5IfQck9WRSTnTUzt4OvVJwJVp8G5kOL9BSny/yDEvj3wZ5kzLp6bD8Dp xS+CyFzVO5+mpZsbTMvbNmYbLagQZqjbU7nyFvz91y/ywFZKdIfNGA1e7dv1FQ5l77IF K62A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1713519360; x=1714124160; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=L3+E+6ms60hQDNEjb347QJ4f9lZjqlpZc/tBxuB60No=; b=srsIgRyLnIeI5EqHmNDOpQx4p0UHvGO8i8E3zNAX339RdKez9Lz0AweKHd2WjVX+uN H2bAKCQYXjuySbXEoxT+z0BdNouOdKr9XpjgN3l+o1PecxhYLPphLj0kdNcLC83s1ilT phvgsP2rMRHA5u3z7H6T06mBZw8Oh+LmetMs+ampTHcEr+60f115cXK/iOqJ8j6JGlN/ afGNe3GIxpGXHHq8AywWPSJ/wvgDPzX20UN96LihAmPTtnymOweCpeKpyuk7ivDc/y/a 4XlvBlzVEyyK3hGrW0TX+oywaDbjtDH36ue4AUtLmMpncapP11mrvbYyCAWmALb4r5Ix soQQ== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVOu+Q80TxqHZNx/Qu4N9ixqnPWd+G/XIfnZ5vcv6tehn7u6+XeIYOH/AgyGYPCrxtT5QlfOZHaShXGFM7IbYvRu4M52aYOtMHUItmn2DA6UiQdiXM= X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyP+0uneFngG0q/Xj6k3DPqI7TBqMsC8l/krfvaKODYZ3uW2BzL uqffp86dmkLaFnGzdJ/Zyv27U7jcakWJyOeVk/D15IMNU5IpCzLepBLY1zgJi6SaIHM5o6AHwnr OADHqvAxcHfUqVzK86Ld0wsR68Kk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF6N4w40pycjXw+OfTiIAIJdjYfxFV9sfapJ+dYypJOgmguQ/b/R8NxWprDzF/88jPx/E0w9xN2owh9KGTynao= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:b105:b0:a55:75f6:ce0f with SMTP id u5-20020a170906b10500b00a5575f6ce0fmr1093227ejy.13.1713519360325; Fri, 19 Apr 2024 02:36:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240417232725.GC25080@gnu.wildebeest.org> <5bde614c-224f-4ec6-8450-7c0911938cf9@netcologne.de> In-Reply-To: <5bde614c-224f-4ec6-8450-7c0911938cf9@netcologne.de> From: Jonathan Wakely Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 10:35:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Updated Sourceware infrastructure plans To: Thomas Koenig Cc: Mark Wielaard , overseers@sourceware.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org, binutils@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, "fortran@gcc.gnu.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 at 07:06, Thomas Koenig via Gcc wrote: > > Am 18.04.24 um 01:27 schrieb Mark Wielaard: > > We also should make sure that all generated files (either in git or in > > the release/snapshot tar balls) can be reliably and reproducibly > > regenerated. This also helps the (pre-commit) CI buildbots. We already > > have the autoregen bots for gcc and binutils-gdb. And Christoph has > > been working on extending the scripts to regenerate more kinds of > > files. > > I regenerate auto* files from time to time for libgfortran. Regenerating > them has always been very fragile (using --enable-maintainer-mode), > and difficult to get right. I've been curious for ages why gfortran requires using maintainer mode for that. Nobody else uses maintainer mode for GCC development, so it causes friction when somebody has to do changes across the whole of gcc including gfortran parts. If it doesn't work with a simple autoreconf then that should be fixed.