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From: Janus Weil <janus@gcc.gnu.org>
To: "Dominique d'Humières" <dominiq@lps.ens.fr>
Cc: Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>, gfortran <fortran@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch, Fortran] PR 57160: short-circuit IF only with -ffrontend-optimize
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2018 20:59:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKwh3qggW=_pnb3-kvJif9SoC9p2bdFaSDTTxfdKZrEgT7ea-Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKwh3qiFutRu9ZobZWXY5wGvSBdgLdT9VkHDOMtV=0QSQNSOJg@mail.gmail.com>

2018-08-01 22:46 GMT+02:00 Janus Weil <janus@gcc.gnu.org>:
> 2018-07-28 10:03 GMT+02:00 Janus Weil <janus@gcc.gnu.org>:
>> 2018-07-27 18:42 GMT+02:00 Dominique d'Humières <dominiq@lps.ens.fr>:
>>>> If there is further constructive criticism regarding v3 of the patch,
>>>> as posted at https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/fortran/2018-07/msg00103.html,
>>>> I'll be happy to deal with that. If not, I'd like to commit it by the
>>>> weekend.
>>>
>>> This patch breaks backward compatibility
>>
>> Not for valid Fortran code. The patch only affects code that is not
>> guaranteed to work by the Fortran standard, like "if (associated(a)
>> .and. a>0)".
>>
>> "Breaking" such code is precisely the purpose of the patch. The idea
>> is to discourage users from writing such code, because it is not valid
>> Fortran code (and therefore not portable). Are you trying to argue
>> that such code should work with gfortran?
>>
>>
>>> Hence I am definitively against this patch.
>>
>> If you are against it, do you have *any* other solution for the problem at hand?
>
> Ping!
>
> We have a problem here which deserves a solution. So, Dominique, if
> you don't like my solution, how do you propose to solve PR 57160?

ping**2

It's so easy to scream "bullshit", and so hard to find a good
solution. Still, we need one ...

I suggest the naysayers get active. I'm out.

Cheers,
Janus

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-06 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-27 16:42 Dominique d'Humières
2018-07-28  8:03 ` Janus Weil
2018-08-01 20:46   ` Janus Weil
2018-08-06 20:59     ` Janus Weil [this message]
2018-08-07 10:11       ` Dominique d'Humières
2018-08-07 17:14         ` Janus Weil
2018-08-07 22:21           ` Thomas König
2018-08-08  0:17             ` William Clodius
2018-08-08  5:41             ` Janus Weil
2018-08-08  8:35           ` Manfred Schwarb
2018-08-08 11:23             ` Janus Weil
2018-08-08 11:29               ` Arjen Markus
2018-08-08 18:21                 ` Janus Weil
2018-08-08 20:48                   ` Janus Weil
2018-08-09  1:05                     ` Jerry DeLisle
2018-08-09 21:14                       ` Janus Weil
2018-08-10  0:38                         ` Jerry DeLisle
2018-08-10 14:14                           ` Janus Weil
2018-08-08 19:50             ` Janus Weil
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-07-24  9:12 Dominique d'Humières
2018-07-24 13:46 ` Janus Weil
2018-07-24 15:42   ` Janne Blomqvist
2018-07-24 16:18     ` Janus Weil
2018-07-20 21:38 Janus Weil
2018-07-23  7:40 ` Adam Hirst
2018-07-23 17:11   ` Janus Weil
2018-07-23 21:06     ` Fritz Reese
2018-07-24 18:46       ` Janus Weil
2018-07-24 19:49         ` Janus Weil
2018-07-24 19:50         ` Thomas Koenig
2018-07-24 20:14           ` Janus Weil
2018-07-25 20:05             ` Janus Weil
2018-07-25 20:59               ` Nicolas Koenig
2018-07-25 21:01                 ` Thomas Koenig
2018-07-25 21:31                 ` Janus Weil

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