From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x132.google.com (mail-lf1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::132]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 923E43858D3C for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:01:46 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 923E43858D3C Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=linaro.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linaro.org ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 923E43858D3C Authentication-Results: server2.sourceware.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::132 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1713430917; cv=none; b=N0XGoMRG7cHVyd9oquIyep3PsOb+0ynbD+mUgzOhgix09PLn6BY34Mvq+zVOWZdZG0rgwzPDi2TAZAox7TyOTIbswD9/nWZi5Z/NnS8wiUbGCDZFjeDIqE1bQoJpz2x4nxLkHQ81fIp7RcvYWvKfN/mgbeYsSrwDxAy25UZ8bFc= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1713430917; c=relaxed/simple; bh=vCSWyvKhzwUW2vvx+qhI/J9pBICiu+3We87I/NxCQfM=; h=DKIM-Signature:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID:Subject:To; b=hoAuAjDLKRK+TkFluoXTB8SJTtsqkbRnuluft0kj7Udoa1mDcsJ+1DNIKsJfv898oWB/EmM9TWxjynTpfziGZT/JpS8gOQm2DvAjbPn8xxrwDKFIA5AWYf8ETqpiOqPXRmU5SXp+aP1runS7+eF54oSQhPeRue7HN3NtGJ0ouEI= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org Received: by mail-lf1-x132.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-518a56cdbcfso895683e87.2 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 02:01:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linaro.org; s=google; t=1713430905; x=1714035705; darn=gcc.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=4wxm1AlkY5CcmhFtT1am6YtKf9w3brebrEElnEXpvzY=; b=mPy4OCowdFzbQPZC1QnzOmSyVfutMlBltzvQxieeDLyzwkhjzLbX+CqcPKsUC9zrCe VYPR8FG+lWfaTvcWKWPyHHUyzbTGHdkdv3o/VwFR4QPr3YfcN/iyenkLbdyqUqtLeY4K FZMHZAMQ22uEcymiDOryDcHXh54vuxxJ3GQSyJWH85FHlQp3Bf5T3XaZmEfQ5SB+gVZo jpq372d/8OkA39DVX+H5hFCQb8PjilfrgyYfXcgXVcWKjLx0Y7hjSiEPdgQ9edWFwS/4 oGy5FFAP3YTutQrGukRdmQyXeAZNvJlirt2x4BVzAQG6+mP+AQOv2F/nzAlFx2hRv5JY 4PdQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1713430905; x=1714035705; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=4wxm1AlkY5CcmhFtT1am6YtKf9w3brebrEElnEXpvzY=; b=V9kxKZtceoFcM+SqAVGkS0+b9LpEp3AWjIal7zPm4Ano2o+VURZegw3N223sF/GJui FvMBSmZkeKroWlKwFvejkfWZ6mIPlv1vIaI+fQ7M9+bvjhOohqfDNQSb/r94AS6O0Nyo dvISiVYsJnqCXiaFY23++izfsZ6cATo8x7fUKBYlnnXYYsz8b6YaWq2bFHOksSmv/izc 99dUNLWwqDdHej/tJkfyR8DnGvf7MT5l9fsMCzOhGhDfXubwzMFdEs45AtVOkRF7q556 Fw7X1D0I7rMGH9gBm8qCSMMR4C+6vT0BDehJu36IGqUYWh/6pxpxO0zd+MABm1n9PKRR c8yA== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCX/6B5fp0u2UDNjoNlrALLZBNqCCYTX8SgszYqundRHx+nsxefLlN97vS9hepFach1Bp5UnvIfNeReQnaBNYBc+Fo5v X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yxbl0RlwdtVXLW7hOi3LmdGXbabke0+6HPTabpxAQ0wJ4Y7drDK 4JcRInq51ckmae+f99ri4GiYAKPBJ3n+4zEZD3gVnrz25XX22r/4M1rQ/t2zQbvAscr4+zvVVjI 6Z+MRsr7oJlxnbuL0ezagO4u4J6uOd2LXJumhGg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGmZ9ZMikhUEzpxSwopX47gnuK324o3g0F4eT+q9xXJwbeLCY7aG1KBHwEvMzeAzqdhBkvcj2g3LanEwWe+9jc= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:4253:0:b0:518:c8e1:478 with SMTP id m19-20020ac24253000000b00518c8e10478mr1273463lfl.58.1713430904814; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 02:01:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240417232725.GC25080@gnu.wildebeest.org> <5bde614c-224f-4ec6-8450-7c0911938cf9@netcologne.de> <4353C519-D023-45B0-A254-C7274B7CFC6F@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4353C519-D023-45B0-A254-C7274B7CFC6F@gmail.com> From: Christophe Lyon Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 11:01:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Updated Sourceware infrastructure plans To: FX Coudert Cc: Thomas Koenig , Mark Wielaard , overseers@sourceware.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org, binutils@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, "fortran@gcc.gnu.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: Hi, On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 at 10:15, FX Coudert wrote: > > > I regenerate auto* files from time to time for libgfortran. Regeneratin= g > > them has always been very fragile (using --enable-maintainer-mode), > > and difficult to get right. > > I have never found them difficult to regenerate, but if you have only a n= on maintainer build, it is a pain to have to make a new maintainer build fo= r a minor change. > FWIW, we have noticed lots of warnings from autoreconf in libgfortran. I didn't try to investigate, since the regenerated files are identical to what is currently in the repo. For instance, you can download the "stdio" output from the autoregen.py step in https://builder.sourceware.org/buildbot/#/builders/269/builds/4373 Thanks, Christophe > Moreover, our m4 code is particularly painful to use and unreadable. I ha= ve been wondering for some time: should we switch to simpler Python scripts= ? It would also mean that we would have fewer files in the generated/ folde= r: right now, every time we add new combinations of types, we have a combin= atorial explosion of files. > > $ ls generated/sum_* > generated/sum_c10.c generated/sum_c17.c generated/sum_c8.c generated/sum= _i16.c generated/sum_i4.c generated/sum_r10.c generated/sum_r17.c generate= d/sum_r8.c > generated/sum_c16.c generated/sum_c4.c generated/sum_i1.c generated/sum= _i2.c generated/sum_i8.c generated/sum_r16.c generated/sum_r4.c > > We could imagine having a single file for all sum intrinsics. > > How do Fortran maintainers feel about that? > > FX