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But it's been a very long time since I dove into a large= software project and it's intimidating. I do know C (really C++, I haven'= t used plain C for a long time). I am one of those "aging" types but I am= familiar at least superficially with newer tools because I must use them f= or work, specifically git and Slack (Mattermost seems to be an open-source = Slack alternative) -- we make heavy use of Slack in particular.=20 Is there some kind of "getting started" guide? Katherine Holcomb=A0 UVA Research Computing=A0=A0https://www.rc.virginia.edu=A0 kah3f@virginia.edu=A0=A0=A0=A0434-982-5948=A0 -----Original Message----- From: Fortran On Beha= lf Of Steve Kargl via Fortran Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2022 11:27 AM To: Jerry D via Fortran Cc: Benson Muite Subject: Re: Team Collaboration Considerations On Wed, Dec 07, 2022 at 05:54:40PM -0800, Jerry D via Fortran wrote: > Other than Benson, I have received no sign of any interest from=20 > gfortran developers to adopt a teaming/collaboration platform.=A0 I am a= =20 > bit disappointed. Maybe my intent was misunderstood.=A0 I am not=20 > suggesting replacing the email approval process but there are many=20 > other features of these platforms, in particular, communication=20 > efficiency that would be very helpful. >=20 > I know many software developers who use these tools regularly.=20 > Honestly I do not know why gcc.gnu.org does not adopt one of these as=20 > a whole. Perhaps it is simply resistance to change. >=20 > I will keep the Mattermost workspace.=A0 If anyone want to join send me=20 > your email and I will send you an invite. >=20 > Well, as always, best regards, > =20 Jerry, I think you're seeing the effects of the move to git and an aging base of c= ontributors. Harald is almost single-handily dealing with bug reports. Mi= keal has recently been reviewing Harald's patches, and offers some good adv= ice on improvements. Occasionally, Thomas and I offer up patches, but this= occurs in a rather sparse manner. In fact, if I fix a bug, the patch is attached to the bugzilla report where= it sits until Harald stumbles across it or it bit rots. =20 I don't know how to attract new contributors. I've invited more than one p= erson who's pointed out a issue with gfortran to join the developers. This= is typically met with "I don't know C", "I don't know compiler design", "I= don't have time"r, ... -- Steve