From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.21]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D38A2382CB8D for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2022 04:12:17 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org D38A2382CB8D Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=emailplus.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=emailplus.org Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4571632002D8; Wed, 7 Dec 2022 23:12:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 07 Dec 2022 23:12:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=emailplus.org; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1670472733; x= 1670559133; bh=Us8dYMIQWeyE1KD2ECzoZfU5JcHZupeyZwc2ee8PHyU=; b=c sFulB8RZU0jHApPQtetCDDYK0wZfnVNaYmk+ktOUIo2myYU3/SPHM8yp/RniGVyK Z5HdQdMiPJcbPE77tdKJa6rqi8sZlORpfK6b6ZYwC5qNOqyStZsFMFFcHO3IkPza scAbjsQcsrSHaVamKexHnU7DRlmy10LatINEzuEKqf/NatT7JJq5tpmSkX8rJ7OC DhaKmL4e0nGnfTnUDOuekTB8dvs5k7dZ/8Uo1NT4jQF5cZ1xUNcXpLXSGfK+QN9e 3kSoKV4Enli7kwKdKkiKRe6YSqLVPMXlp/Sqq57tpCRyduKnoZFQeB8INvqNvr5H uJeECuK2Y17NgPILN6j3A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender :subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; t=1670472733; x=1670559133; bh=U s8dYMIQWeyE1KD2ECzoZfU5JcHZupeyZwc2ee8PHyU=; b=jtf4r0qu8IranEG31 pok27N/1WRbg0sVfWNCxtCacD0lLiEO47q5Tvc82lZdxMCaAj2s+3BZd098Tro4z yWWMe+82a1ymrs6wRim73Ln4woXh/IKe/IERI0WBZhKCJjCMhW5WOVrny4+qbfrv L6+Hjci+OhIl9CWunvWxnFD9UDBMqXHWBjLoZSNpK64xGSUL/3A1uw28bAilVHRG D+qT9ZyPSie35B5lxIrGqK6vJ7KZz2LIB7NscTTiH/L6zk1S1VY/i+n6tKYBDjGH Q4Rny21zutPNNtOWOsq59Za38Vh0ALubkLey01zjNoGbd4Bx9F58rWbKYcoPF4cu HyRkA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrudelgdeikecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepkfffgggfvfhfhffujggtgfesthekre dttdefjeenucfhrhhomhepuegvnhhsohhnucfouhhithgvuceosggvnhhsohhnpghmuhhi thgvsegvmhgrihhlphhluhhsrdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpefhheeuudduff eifefgfefhveefleetgfdtteffteeggeeljedukeevteehffethfenucffohhmrghinhep ughishgtohhurhhsvgdrghhrohhuphdpghhnuhdrohhrghdpqhhurghsshgvlhdqihhrtg drohhrghdpghhithhhuhgsrdgtohhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghr rghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepsggvnhhsohhnpghmuhhithgvsegvmhgrihhlphhluhhsrd horhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ic1e8415a:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 7 Dec 2022 23:12:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2022 07:12:04 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.5.1 To: Jerry D , gfortran References: <6e48ab2c-f006-c57f-db39-2b3efb6b30a4@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Benson Muite Subject: Re: Team Collaboration Considerations In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On 12/8/22 04:54, Jerry D wrote: > Other than Benson, I have received no sign of any interest from gfortran > developers to adopt a teaming/collaboration platform.  I am a bit > disappointed. Maybe my intent was misunderstood.  I am not suggesting > replacing the email approval process but there are many other features > of these platforms, in particular, communication efficiency that would > be very helpful. There is a discourse site https://fortran-lang.discourse.group that caters to Fortran in general. > > I know many software developers who use these tools regularly. Honestly > I do not know why gcc.gnu.org does not adopt one of these as a whole. > Perhaps it is simply resistance to change. Maybe it is helpful to bridge Mattermost and IRC? Interoperability is good and minimizes the cost of having multiple clients running. The chat applications are great for enabling focus, for example adding git commit notifications in a separate channel. https://quassel-irc.org seems like it may also be helpful. > > I will keep the Mattermost workspace.  If anyone want to join send me > your email and I will send you an invite. > > Well, as always, best regards, > > Jerry > > On 12/4/22 6:16 AM, Benson Muite wrote: >> On 12/4/22 06:52, Jerry D via Fortran wrote: >> >>> 3. Mattermost looks pretty good and was easy to set up.  The free >>>     version is a bit better than Slacks. GCC C++ uses it. >> This server application runs well. The desktop application is a little >> resource heavy, however there is also a Qt based desktop application: >> https://github.com/nuclear868/mattermost-qt >> >> It is possible to bridge Mattermost and IRC: >> https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge >> https://github.com/42wim/matterircd >> >>> >> >