src.zip's and rpms in Eclipse

src.zip's and rpms in Eclipse

[Phil Muldoon]

Andrew Overholt suggested I ask here for help with this.

One of the really neat things about developing any Java program using 
Classpath in Fedora is the integration of Classpath source in the rpm, 
and how it integrates with Eclipse. This is great as it allows you to 
browse the Classpath code under the api with F3 (or Right Click->Open 
Declaration). We'd like to do the same for Java-GNOME and Frysk. Is 
there a Wiki page, guide .. or general advice to accomplish this as it 
is done via the Classpath rpm?
Regards

Phil Muldoon

Re: [fedora-java] src.zip's and rpms in Eclipse

[Anthony Green]

On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 18:57 -0600, Phil Muldoon wrote:
>  Is 
> there a Wiki page, guide .. or general advice to accomplish this as it 
> is done via the Classpath rpm?

I was under the impression that Eclipse finds the target JDK's src.zip
based on well known conventions of JDK layout (which we follow in
java-1.4.2-gcj-compat).  As far as I know there's no way to do this for
random jar files.  You need to manually attach the source jar/zip to the
jar file within Eclipse.

Perhaps it makes sense to add a manifest file tag identifying the
location of the jar file's source code.  Then Eclipse could be taught to
look for the source itself.  Maybe this is something Andrew and team can
tackle as part of their new Eclipse Linux packaging effort at
eclipse.org.

AG

Re: [fedora-java] src.zip's and rpms in Eclipse

[Andrew Overholt]

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On Wed, 2006-29-11 at 08:28 -0800, Anthony Green wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 18:57 -0600, Phil Muldoon wrote:
> >  Is 
> > there a Wiki page, guide .. or general advice to accomplish this as it 
> > is done via the Classpath rpm?
> 
> I was under the impression that Eclipse finds the target JDK's src.zip
> based on well known conventions of JDK layout (which we follow in
> java-1.4.2-gcj-compat).  As far as I know there's no way to do this for
> random jar files.  You need to manually attach the source jar/zip to the
> jar file within Eclipse.

No, I think it can be done for any jar.  Ben will know, though.

> Perhaps it makes sense to add a manifest file tag identifying the
> location of the jar file's source code.  Then Eclipse could be taught to
> look for the source itself.  Maybe this is something Andrew and team can
> tackle as part of their new Eclipse Linux packaging effort at
> eclipse.org.

Har-har :)

Andrew

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Re: [fedora-java] src.zip's and rpms in Eclipse

[Ben Konrath]

Hi, 

On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 11:40 -0500, Andrew Overholt wrote: 
> On Wed, 2006-29-11 at 08:28 -0800, Anthony Green wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 18:57 -0600, Phil Muldoon wrote:
> > >  Is 
> > > there a Wiki page, guide .. or general advice to accomplish this as it 
> > > is done via the Classpath rpm?
> > 
> > I was under the impression that Eclipse finds the target JDK's src.zip
> > based on well known conventions of JDK layout (which we follow in
> > java-1.4.2-gcj-compat).  As far as I know there's no way to do this for
> > random jar files.  You need to manually attach the source jar/zip to the
> > jar file within Eclipse.
> 
> No, I think it can be done for any jar.  Ben will know, though.

Not automatically as far as I can tell. Yes, the Java-GNOME jars have a
source zips but you have to manually add them. I asked about this when
3.0 came out but didn't hear anything and I briefly looked into to
yesterday, but came up with nothing again. I don't have time to
investigate it fully, so I think I'll just file a bug see what they
say. 

> > Perhaps it makes sense to add a manifest file tag identifying the
> > location of the jar file's source code.  Then Eclipse could be taught to
> > look for the source itself.  Maybe this is something Andrew and team can
> > tackle as part of their new Eclipse Linux packaging effort at
> > eclipse.org.

Yeah, that a good idea and I've wanted this for a while. I was thinking
of checking a known location, for example if you add
package-version.jar, it would auto-attach package-version-src.zip. This
seems to be a convention that eclipse uses. But using a manifest file
tag would be more robust. Perhaps supporting both would be a good idea
using the manifest as the preferred source. 

The only concern I have heard about providing these zips on a large
scale is that the source code is already provided in the debuginfo
packages so making the source zips puts the source code in two places.
However, there are a couple of issues with using the debuginfo packages
like this:

1) AFAIK not all mirrors carry the debuginfo packages and they're not 
   enabled by default which means it's hard to rely on them
3) debuginfo generation of Eclipse and I think other java packages is 
   broken ATM

As far as doing the work, I personally don't have the time to do it, but
I'll make sure it gets on a general tasks list on the Eclipse Linux
packaging wiki.

HTH, 
Ben

Re: [fedora-java] src.zip's and rpms in Eclipse

[Nicolas Mailhot]

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Le jeudi 30 novembre 2006 à 15:25 -0500, Ben Konrath a écrit :

> Yeah, that a good idea and I've wanted this for a while. I was thinking
> of checking a known location, for example if you add
> package-version.jar, it would auto-attach package-version-src.zip. This
> seems to be a convention that eclipse uses. But using a manifest file
> tag would be more robust.

Manifest is not robust WRT file moves. It's redundant when everyone
follows the same conventions, and a PITA to track/change when you don't.

Much better to specify rigid file location & naming conventions, with
optional override of the root dir via an env var

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Nicolas Mailhot

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Re: [fedora-java] src.zip's and rpms in Eclipse

[Ben Konrath]

On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 22:57 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le jeudi 30 novembre 2006 à 15:25 -0500, Ben Konrath a écrit :
> 
> > Yeah, that a good idea and I've wanted this for a while. I was thinking
> > of checking a known location, for example if you add
> > package-version.jar, it would auto-attach package-version-src.zip. This
> > seems to be a convention that eclipse uses. But using a manifest file
> > tag would be more robust.
> 
> Manifest is not robust WRT file moves. It's redundant when everyone
> follows the same conventions, and a PITA to track/change when you don't.

I was thinking of somehow specifying the absolute path to the source zip
in the manifest. If the source zip is packaged by the same srpm as jar,
then the location should be known and users shouldn't be just randomly
moving files around. But I agree that it would be a bit of a pain to
modify every java RPM to add a path its manifest specifying the location
of the source zip.

> Much better to specify rigid file location & naming conventions, with
> optional override of the root dir via an env var

Seems reasonable. Eclipse tends to use the naming convention I mentioned
in my initial response (above) so this is what I've been using. As an
example, the libgtk-java packages has these files in /usr/share/java/:

gtk2.8-2.8.7.jar 
gtk2.8.jar -> gtk2.8-2.8.7.jar
gtk2.8-src-2.8.7.zip
gtk2.8-src.zip -> gtk2.8-src-2.8.7.zip

I think we should keep this naming convention and have eclipse
automatically attach a source zips with the correct name
(<jarname-version>-src.{zip,jar}) if they are in the same directory as
the external jar. If ECLIPSE_JDT_JAR_SRC_ZIP_DIR is set, Eclipse could
try to load a zip/jar of the same name from the directory specified by
this env variable. What do you think?

Ben   

Re: [fedora-java] src.zip's and rpms in Eclipse

[Phil Muldoon]

Anthony Green wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 18:57 -0600, Phil Muldoon wrote:
>   
>>  Is 
>> there a Wiki page, guide .. or general advice to accomplish this as it 
>> is done via the Classpath rpm?
>>     
>
> I was under the impression that Eclipse finds the target JDK's src.zip
> based on well known conventions of JDK layout (which we follow in
> java-1.4.2-gcj-compat).  As far as I know there's no way to do this for
> random jar files.  You need to manually attach the source jar/zip to the
> jar file within Eclipse.
>   

Hmm might be. Hopefully this can translate to all Jars you import in a 
project. It sure would be nice when installing a corresponding -devel 
rpm, all this is done for the user. It's kind of an awesome little thing 
to Open declaration on an element in Classpath, see the source, and not 
have to muck around attaching src.zip to jars first.

Regards

Phil