From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30082 invoked by alias); 14 Jul 2008 16:45:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 30074 invoked by uid 22791); 14 Jul 2008 16:45:53 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from NaN.false.org (HELO nan.false.org) (208.75.86.248) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:45:33 +0000 Received: from nan.false.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nan.false.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326809813B; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:45:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from caradoc.them.org (22.svnf5.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.183.55]) by nan.false.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139C69813A; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:45:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from drow by caradoc.them.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KIRB5-0001iH-C0; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:45:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:45:00 -0000 From: Daniel Jacobowitz To: Tom Tromey Cc: Frysk List Subject: Re: Roadmap beginnings Message-ID: <20080714164531.GA6283@caradoc.them.org> References: <20080711215243.GA30836@caradoc.them.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2008-05-11) X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact frysk-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: frysk-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2008-q3/txt/msg00033.txt.bz2 On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:33:48AM -0600, Tom Tromey wrote: > Thanks in particular for your comments on the particular C++ work > items. I think those combined form a pretty powerful argument. > There's still some unaddressed though: > > * Multi-process. I've seen some hints on the list that this is > coming, but not enough info to really understand. This seems like > something that would affect many areas -- there would seem to be > challenges from the CLI on down. Yes. I can say that CodeSourcery is working on this, and I fully expect to have an implementation posted by ... say ... mid-October. Focus is likely to be on MI, though it will certainly be somehow CLI-accessible. We plan to do the work (or at least the design) in public; if anyone wants to help... > * Scalability to lots of shared libraries. This is tied into the > above. I have some general thoughts about this, but nothing concrete. > Dodji sent me some interesting links to totalview docs. They do seem > to have a lot of additional core functionality -- process-group stuff > similar to what HPD specifies, the ability to evaluate C/Fortran/asm > code fragments (nice!), memory debugging (overflows, bad free calls, > etc), tracepoints. One thing that might benefit GDB is for someone to sit down and come up with a few new-approach-to-debugging features like these. Stick them up on the wiki or something... A nice thing about new features is that they're shiny, a.k.a. a good draw-in for new contributors. -- Daniel Jacobowitz CodeSourcery