way to grahpically interact; for ui discussion

way to grahpically interact; for ui discussion

[Andrew Cagney]

Hello,

Any one know of good free shared interaction "stuff"?  I'd like to see 
an open meeting on thursday mornings (TO time) where people can discuss 
UI aspects of frysk.  This means looking at screen shots, and even 
read-only access to a desktop.  Unfortunatly I can't find any useful 
free technology to facilitate this.

The problem is that all the s/w i know of requires holes to be punched 
into a firewall.  Does any one know of something suitable for properly 
open colab?

Andrew

Re: way to grahpically interact; for ui discussion

[Phil Muldoon]

Andrew Cagney wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Any one know of good free shared interaction "stuff"?  I'd like to see 
> an open meeting on thursday mornings (TO time) where people can 
> discuss UI aspects of frysk.  This means looking at screen shots, and 
> even read-only access to a desktop.  Unfortunatly I can't find any 
> useful free technology to facilitate this.
>
> The problem is that all the s/w i know of requires holes to be punched 
> into a firewall.  Does any one know of something suitable for properly 
> open colab?

Sami and I used to use Coccinella which runs over the jabber network to 
provide a virtual white-board. It had some issues, but it seemed to work 
ok between two people. No idea if that would scale to team level 
interaction. There seems to be buckets of white-board applets, but they 
require a server to host. The link for Coccinella is at:

http://hem.fyristorg.com/matben/


On the whole it seems that this area is under-served with utilities.

Regards

Phil

Re: way to grahpically interact; for ui discussion

[Elena Zannoni]

Please let Kris and me know about time and so on for the conference. If 
necessary we can use the Oracle phones too.
I think there is also quite a bit beyond the gui to talk about, and to 
divide up areas where meaningful
contributions can be made.



Andrew Cagney wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Any one know of good free shared interaction "stuff"?  I'd like to see 
> an open meeting on thursday mornings (TO time) where people can 
> discuss UI aspects of frysk.  This means looking at screen shots, and 
> even read-only access to a desktop.  Unfortunatly I can't find any 
> useful free technology to facilitate this.
>
> The problem is that all the s/w i know of requires holes to be punched 
> into a firewall.  Does any one know of something suitable for properly 
> open colab?
>
> Andrew
>

Re: way to grahpically interact; for ui discussion

[Elena Zannoni]

Actually, if there have been previous conference calls open to the 
public, where are
the announcements, agendas and minutes? I don't think they were posted 
to the list?
Can you send a pointer?

tia
elena



Elena Zannoni wrote:
> Please let Kris and me know about time and so on for the conference. 
> If necessary we can use the Oracle phones too.
> I think there is also quite a bit beyond the gui to talk about, and to 
> divide up areas where meaningful
> contributions can be made.
>
>
>
> Andrew Cagney wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Any one know of good free shared interaction "stuff"?  I'd like to 
>> see an open meeting on thursday mornings (TO time) where people can 
>> discuss UI aspects of frysk.  This means looking at screen shots, and 
>> even read-only access to a desktop.  Unfortunatly I can't find any 
>> useful free technology to facilitate this.
>>
>> The problem is that all the s/w i know of requires holes to be 
>> punched into a firewall.  Does any one know of something suitable for 
>> properly open colab?
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>
>
>
>

Re: way to grahpically interact; for ui discussion

[Andrew Cagney]

Phil,

Yes, Coccinella is good for two people but not a group.

The only pratical(?) option I know of is:

-> specify a TIME and have everyone build a tree from that time
Hopefully, and ignoring portability issues, letting people describe the 
interaction so people can follow locally.  This of course will still 
mean that directly seeing what is done isn't possible

-> require any on-branch changes first be put on the web as a series of 
screen shots

Do people thing this is workable?  Give it a try?

Beyond that I can think of is to somehow put a scratch-install machine 
on the Interweb for just the duration of the discussion.  Would be 
higher overhead, and would limit discussion to just what was built on 
that machine.  Things here are screwed down so tight that won't happen, 
and even internet-cafe's are so firewalled as to not help.

Andrew

Phil Muldoon wrote:
> Andrew Cagney wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Any one know of good free shared interaction "stuff"?  I'd like to 
>> see an open meeting on thursday mornings (TO time) where people can 
>> discuss UI aspects of frysk.  This means looking at screen shots, and 
>> even read-only access to a desktop.  Unfortunatly I can't find any 
>> useful free technology to facilitate this.
>>
>> The problem is that all the s/w i know of requires holes to be 
>> punched into a firewall.  Does any one know of something suitable for 
>> properly open colab?
>
> Sami and I used to use Coccinella which runs over the jabber network 
> to provide a virtual white-board. It had some issues, but it seemed to 
> work ok between two people. No idea if that would scale to team level 
> interaction. There seems to be buckets of white-board applets, but 
> they require a server to host. The link for Coccinella is at:
>
> http://hem.fyristorg.com/matben/
>
>
> On the whole it seems that this area is under-served with utilities.
>
> Regards
>
> Phil