Re: meeting notes 20070905

[Phil Muldoon <pmuldoon@redhat.com>]

Elena Zannoni wrote:

Some further notes. Minutes as an attachment make in-line comments 
painful :(

> Frysk meeting 2007-09-05
>
> Version control systems discussions
>
> Tim Andrew Elena Stan Mark Sami [who else?]
>

Phil

> Do people that prefer strongly one system have played around with the
> others as well?
>
> Tim --> likes Git, hasn't tried Hg
> Mark --> Hg

Phil --> either, as long as it is not CVS. We have decades of combined 
CVS experience, yet there are still mistakes made daily. Some of which 
take hours and hours to recover from. At some point have to look at the 
tool, and not the developer and perhaps think that a newer, better one 
is needed. Personally (further down) there are lots of projects moving 
to DCM. Including OpenJDK, Mozilla, Kernel, ASLA, Xen, RPM, etc etc to 
name a few. I find the "stay with CVS as it is known" a bit of a false 
argument. Borked and old != better.

> Plugins: cvs plugin in eclipse. No other plugins for eclipse.
> cvs module in emacs as well. no emacs modes for git and Hg.

Incorrect at least for Mercurial:

http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/OtherTools

No idea about GiT though I am sure Tim will fill in.

> Advantage over cvs is that one can recover easily from erroneous
> commits, because of the changesets.

Active developer community, saner interface (goodbye to positional 
switches!). Trac and Maven integration.

> What projects we know of are using Git and which ones are using Hg?
>
> Git: kernel, libunwind
> Hg: icedtea, openjdk, mozilla
For Mercurial

http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/ProjectsUsingMercurial

I'll fill all this data into the webpage, too.

Regards

Phil