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* [Bug libstdc++/14320] New: [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type
@ 2004-02-27 13:40 peturr02 at ru dot is
  2004-02-27 13:54 ` [Bug libstdc++/14320] " peturr02 at ru dot is
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From: peturr02 at ru dot is @ 2004-02-27 13:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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As described here:

http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/libstdc++/2004-02/msg00356.html

the standard requires that the difference_type of an iterator must be a
signed integral type, but istreambuf_iterator::difference_type currently
fails to meet this requirement.

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           Summary: [3.4/3.5 Regression]
                    istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed
                    integral type
           Product: gcc
           Version: 3.4.0
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: libstdc++
        AssignedTo: unassigned at gcc dot gnu dot org
        ReportedBy: peturr02 at ru dot is
                CC: gcc-bugs at gcc dot gnu dot org
 GCC build triplet: i686-pc-linux-gnu
  GCC host triplet: i686-pc-linux-gnu
GCC target triplet: i686-pc-linux-gnu


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14320


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* [Bug libstdc++/14320] [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type
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------- Additional Comments From peturr02 at ru dot is  2004-02-27 13:54 -------
Created an attachment (id=5806)
 --> (http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=5806&action=view)
Test case

Since C++98 defines at most 6 signed integral types, this test case checks
istreambuf_iterator::difference_type against them all to see if it is one
of those types.


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* [Bug libstdc++/14320] [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type
  2004-02-27 13:40 [Bug libstdc++/14320] New: [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type peturr02 at ru dot is
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------- Additional Comments From peturr02 at ru dot is  2004-02-27 13:55 -------
Created an attachment (id=5807)
 --> (http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=5807&action=view)
Test case

This test case uses numeric_limits to check if
istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is a signed integral type.


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* [Bug libstdc++/14320] [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type
  2004-02-27 13:40 [Bug libstdc++/14320] New: [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type peturr02 at ru dot is
  2004-02-27 13:54 ` [Bug libstdc++/14320] " peturr02 at ru dot is
  2004-02-27 13:55 ` peturr02 at ru dot is
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------- Additional Comments From peturr02 at ru dot is  2004-02-27 13:57 -------
Created an attachment (id=5808)
 --> (http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=5808&action=view)
Test case

This test case checks if istreambuf_iterator::difference_type provides
operator*= (this operator is supported by all signed integral types).


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* [Bug libstdc++/14320] [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type
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------- Additional Comments From peturr02 at ru dot is  2004-02-27 13:58 -------
Created an attachment (id=5809)
 --> (http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=5809&action=view)
Test case

This test case checks if istreambuf_iterator::difference_type can be used
in standard conversions (in this case conversion to bool).


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* [Bug libstdc++/14320] [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type
  2004-02-27 13:40 [Bug libstdc++/14320] New: [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type peturr02 at ru dot is
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------- Additional Comments From peturr02 at ru dot is  2004-02-27 14:00 -------
Created an attachment (id=5810)
 --> (http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=5810&action=view)
Test case

This test case checks if istreambuf_iterator::difference_type can be
extracted from an istream using operator>>


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* [Bug libstdc++/14320] [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type
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------- Additional Comments From pcarlini at suse dot de  2004-02-27 14:52 -------
Hi Pétur...

Should we change streamoff itself? I think so.

Can't we basically revert for streamoff to the 3_3 situation? 
Since the type is mostly implementation defined, the only tricky point seems the
constructor from fpos (which indeed, in the present form represents a "surprise"
for many people around ;), but this is only a type safety (i.e., QoI) issue.

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             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |NEW
     Ever Confirmed|                            |1
   Last reconfirmed|0000-00-00 00:00:00         |2004-02-27 14:52:36
               date|                            |


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         AssignedTo|unassigned at gcc dot gnu   |pcarlini at suse dot de
                   |dot org                     |
             Status|NEW                         |ASSIGNED
   Target Milestone|---                         |3.4.0


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* [Bug libstdc++/14320] [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type
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------- Additional Comments From gdr at integrable-solutions dot net  2004-02-27 17:54 -------
Subject: Re:  [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type

"pcarlini at suse dot de" <gcc-bugzilla@gcc.gnu.org> writes:

| Hi Pétur...
| 
| Should we change streamoff itself? I think so.

I'm of the opposite opinion.

The notion of "integer type" as currently difined should be fixed.

-- gaby


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* [Bug libstdc++/14320] [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type
  2004-02-27 13:40 [Bug libstdc++/14320] New: [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type peturr02 at ru dot is
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------- Additional Comments From mmitchel at gcc dot gnu dot org  2004-02-28 03:23 -------
Gaby, are you saying that you think the standard is incorrect?

If so, would you a please file a DR?

If the committee is not going to change this, then we need to fix V3,
independently of whether or not we think it is the right thing or not.

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* [Bug libstdc++/14320] [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type
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------- Additional Comments From pcarlini at suse dot de  2004-03-01 22:11 -------
Will commit a fix for 3.4.

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         AssignedTo|gdr at gcc dot gnu dot org  |pcarlini at suse dot de


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* [Bug libstdc++/14320] [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type
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------- Additional Comments From cvs-commit at gcc dot gnu dot org  2004-03-03 00:22 -------
Subject: Bug 14320

CVSROOT:	/cvs/gcc
Module name:	gcc
Changes by:	paolo@gcc.gnu.org	2004-03-03 00:22:05

Modified files:
	libstdc++-v3   : ChangeLog 
	libstdc++-v3/include/bits: postypes.h 
	libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos/mbstate_t: 4_neg.cc 
Added files:
	libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos: 14320-1.cc 14320-2.cc 
	                                   14320-3.cc 14320-4.cc 
	                                   14320-5.cc 

Log message:
	2004-03-02  Paolo Carlini  <pcarlini@suse.de>
	
	PR libstdc++/14320
	* include/bits/postypes.h (class streamoff): Remove, now
	streamoff is just typedef a 64 bit signed integer type.
	(class fpos): Tweak consistently.
	* testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-1.cc: New.
	* testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-2.cc: New.
	* testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-3.cc: New.
	* testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-4.cc: New.
	* testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-5.cc: New.
	* testsuite/27_io/fpos/mbstate_t/4_neg.cc: xfail for now.

Patches:
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=gcc&r1=1.2372&r2=1.2373
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/include/bits/postypes.h.diff?cvsroot=gcc&r1=1.6&r2=1.7
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-1.cc.diff?cvsroot=gcc&r1=NONE&r2=1.1
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-2.cc.diff?cvsroot=gcc&r1=NONE&r2=1.1
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-3.cc.diff?cvsroot=gcc&r1=NONE&r2=1.1
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-4.cc.diff?cvsroot=gcc&r1=NONE&r2=1.1
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-5.cc.diff?cvsroot=gcc&r1=NONE&r2=1.1
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos/mbstate_t/4_neg.cc.diff?cvsroot=gcc&r1=1.1&r2=1.2



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* [Bug libstdc++/14320] [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type
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------- Additional Comments From cvs-commit at gcc dot gnu dot org  2004-03-04 09:47 -------
Subject: Bug 14320

CVSROOT:	/cvs/gcc
Module name:	gcc
Branch: 	gcc-3_4-branch
Changes by:	paolo@gcc.gnu.org	2004-03-04 09:47:24

Modified files:
	libstdc++-v3   : ChangeLog 
	libstdc++-v3/include/bits: postypes.h 
	libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos/mbstate_t: 4_neg.cc 
Added files:
	libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos: 14320-1.cc 14320-2.cc 
	                                   14320-3.cc 14320-4.cc 
	                                   14320-5.cc 

Log message:
	2004-03-04  Paolo Carlini  <pcarlini@suse.de>
	
	PR libstdc++/14320
	* include/bits/postypes.h (class streamoff): Remove, now
	streamoff is just typedef a 64 bit signed integer type.
	(class fpos): Tweak consistently.
	* testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-1.cc: New.
	* testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-2.cc: New.
	* testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-3.cc: New.
	* testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-4.cc: New.
	* testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-5.cc: New.
	* testsuite/27_io/fpos/mbstate_t/4_neg.cc: xfail for now.

Patches:
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/ChangeLog.diff?cvsroot=gcc&only_with_tag=gcc-3_4-branch&r1=1.2224.2.55&r2=1.2224.2.56
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/include/bits/postypes.h.diff?cvsroot=gcc&only_with_tag=gcc-3_4-branch&r1=1.3.6.2&r2=1.3.6.3
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-1.cc.diff?cvsroot=gcc&only_with_tag=gcc-3_4-branch&r1=NONE&r2=1.1.2.1
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-2.cc.diff?cvsroot=gcc&only_with_tag=gcc-3_4-branch&r1=NONE&r2=1.1.2.1
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-3.cc.diff?cvsroot=gcc&only_with_tag=gcc-3_4-branch&r1=NONE&r2=1.1.2.1
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-4.cc.diff?cvsroot=gcc&only_with_tag=gcc-3_4-branch&r1=NONE&r2=1.1.2.1
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos/14320-5.cc.diff?cvsroot=gcc&only_with_tag=gcc-3_4-branch&r1=NONE&r2=1.1.2.1
http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/libstdc++-v3/testsuite/27_io/fpos/mbstate_t/4_neg.cc.diff?cvsroot=gcc&only_with_tag=gcc-3_4-branch&r1=1.1&r2=1.1.14.1



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* [Bug libstdc++/14320] [3.4/3.5 Regression] istreambuf_iterator::difference_type is not a signed integral type
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------- Additional Comments From pcarlini at suse dot de  2004-03-04 09:49 -------
Fixed.

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             Status|ASSIGNED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED


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