[Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org]

------- Comment #1 from pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org  2005-12-16 18:06 -------
 "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build.


-- 

pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Target Milestone|---                         |4.2.0


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25455

[Bug bootstrap/25455] New: [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org]

-- 
           Summary: [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does
                    a bootstrap instead of a normal build
           Product: gcc
           Version: 4.2.0
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: bootstrap
        AssignedTo: unassigned at gcc dot gnu dot org
        ReportedBy: pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25455

[Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org]

------- Comment #2 from pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org  2005-12-16 18:08 -------
This is a huge documention failure if this is supposed to work this way but I
don't think it should be working this way as it breaks my workflow for testing
objc/libobjc changes.


-- 

pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Severity|normal                      |blocker


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25455

[Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[joseph at codesourcery dot com]

------- Comment #3 from joseph at codesourcery dot com  2005-12-16 18:19 -------
Subject: Re:  [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native
 build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org wrote:

>  "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build.

This is a feature, not a bug.  As per the GNU Coding Standards, "make" and 
"make all" should do the normal form of build for users installing the 
software; it was a very longstanding bug that native users needed to do 
"make bootstrap", yielding many spurious bug reports when they didn't.  
Now (4.2) users can at last build GCC the same way as other GNU software.


-- 


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25455

[Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[pcarlini at suse dot de]

------- Comment #4 from pcarlini at suse dot de  2005-12-16 18:27 -------
(In reply to comment #2)
                                                                          but I
> don't think it should be working this way as it breaks my workflow for testing
> objc/libobjc changes.

Too funny, the Andrew-centric view of the world :-) :-)


-- 


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25455

[Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org]

------- Comment #5 from pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org  2005-12-16 18:30 -------
(In reply to comment #4)
> Too funny, the Andrew-centric view of the world :-) :-)
Other people do the same too.  I was just the first to complain.

There still needs to be a way to build without a bootstrap and without
reconfiguring.  If there is not then we will get bug reports about that.  And
this is still a documention failure.

(In reply to comment #3)
> it was a very longstanding bug that native users needed to do 
> "make bootstrap", yielding many spurious bug reports when they didn't.  
We don't get many of those, we get many more invalid C++ bugs than bootstap
issues.


-- 


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25455

[Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[pcarlini at suse dot de]

------- Comment #6 from pcarlini at suse dot de  2005-12-16 18:36 -------
(In reply to comment #5)
> (In reply to comment #4)
> > Too funny, the Andrew-centric view of the world :-) :-)
> Other people do the same too.  I was just the first to complain.
> 
> There still needs to be a way to build without a bootstrap and without
> reconfiguring.  If there is not then we will get bug reports about that.  And
> this is still a documention failure.

I agree about the documentation issue, maybe. Still, I don't think there is
anything wrong with this change, I agree totally with Joseph, FWIW my opinion
about such matters. I mean, normal users *must* boostrap anyway, GCC hackers
have just to pass a very simple config option (and running configure is very
fast, in general). Personally, I adapted to the new behavior in 2 minutes.


-- 


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25455

[Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[pinskia at physics dot uc dot edu]

------- Comment #7 from pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org  2005-12-16 18:43 -------
Subject: Re:  [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a
bootstrap instead of a normal build

> 
> 
> 
> ------- Comment #6 from pcarlini at suse dot de  2005-12-16 18:36 -------
> (In reply to comment #5)
> > (In reply to comment #4)
> > > Too funny, the Andrew-centric view of the world :-) :-)
> > Other people do the same too.  I was just the first to complain.
> > 
> > There still needs to be a way to build without a bootstrap and without
> > reconfiguring.  If there is not then we will get bug reports about that.  And
> > this is still a documention failure.
> 
> I agree about the documentation issue, maybe. Still, I don't think there is
> anything wrong with this change, I agree totally with Joseph, FWIW my opinion
> about such matters. I mean, normal users *must* boostrap anyway, GCC hackers
> have just to pass a very simple config option (and running configure is very
> fast, in general). Personally, I adapted to the new behavior in 2 minutes.

My main problem with how this was handled was there was not big warning
about what was going to change and how to change your workflow.
Only it was going to change.

If Paolo B. had posted an email which said something like the following:
If you did a "make all" before to just build (and not bootstrap) GCC,
configure with --disable-bootstrap.


But he did not which is why there is a bug report.

-- Pinski


-- 


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25455

Re: [Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[Andrew Pinski]

> 
> 
> 
> ------- Comment #6 from pcarlini at suse dot de  2005-12-16 18:36 -------
> (In reply to comment #5)
> > (In reply to comment #4)
> > > Too funny, the Andrew-centric view of the world :-) :-)
> > Other people do the same too.  I was just the first to complain.
> > 
> > There still needs to be a way to build without a bootstrap and without
> > reconfiguring.  If there is not then we will get bug reports about that.  And
> > this is still a documention failure.
> 
> I agree about the documentation issue, maybe. Still, I don't think there is
> anything wrong with this change, I agree totally with Joseph, FWIW my opinion
> about such matters. I mean, normal users *must* boostrap anyway, GCC hackers
> have just to pass a very simple config option (and running configure is very
> fast, in general). Personally, I adapted to the new behavior in 2 minutes.

My main problem with how this was handled was there was not big warning
about what was going to change and how to change your workflow.
Only it was going to change.

If Paolo B. had posted an email which said something like the following:
If you did a "make all" before to just build (and not bootstrap) GCC,
configure with --disable-bootstrap.


But he did not which is why there is a bug report.

-- Pinski

[Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[drow at gcc dot gnu dot org]

------- Comment #8 from drow at gcc dot gnu dot org  2005-12-16 20:38 -------
Since he did:
  http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2005-12/msg00357.html
I'm just going to close this.


-- 

drow at gcc dot gnu dot org changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |INVALID


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25455

[Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[gdr at integrable-solutions dot net]

------- Comment #9 from gdr at integrable-solutions dot net  2005-12-16 22:01 -------
Subject: Re:  [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a
bootstrap instead of a normal build

Andrew Pinski <pinskia@physics.uc.edu> writes:

[...]

| But he did not which is why there is a bug report.

At this moment, I guess the most important thing is that how to "make"
is clarified and Paolo is willing to fix any problem that might
result from his change.  I'm doing what Daniel J. requested and I'll
post the log once the build is finished.

-- Gaby


-- 


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25455

Re: [Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[Gabriel Dos Reis]

Andrew Pinski <pinskia@physics.uc.edu> writes:

[...]

| But he did not which is why there is a bug report.

At this moment, I guess the most important thing is that how to "make"
is clarified and Paolo is willing to fix any problem that might
result from his change.  I'm doing what Daniel J. requested and I'll
post the log once the build is finished.

-- Gaby

[Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org]

------- Comment #10 from pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org  2006-01-04 14:10 -------
(In reply to comment #9)
> At this moment, I guess the most important thing is that how to "make"
> is clarified and Paolo is willing to fix any problem that might
> result from his change.  I'm doing what Daniel J. requested and I'll
> post the log once the build is finished.

Except this is still documented the wrong way.


-- 

pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|RESOLVED                    |UNCONFIRMED
         Resolution|INVALID                     |


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25455

[Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org]

------- Comment #11 from pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org  2006-01-04 14:11 -------
And there needs to be a way to do the old way of "make all" without having to
reconfiguring as it means rebuilding the support libraries which is too slow as
it is.


-- 


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25455

[Bug bootstrap/25455] [4.2 Regression] "make all" with a native build now does a bootstrap instead of a normal build

[pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org]

------- Comment #12 from pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org  2006-02-20 17:35 -------
If make all-gcc works, I am happy so this is a dup of bug 25670.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 25670 ***


-- 

pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |DUPLICATE


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25455