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* [Bug bootstrap/28101]  New: Cannot build cross compiler for Solaris: values-Xa.o: No such file: No such file or directory
@ 2006-06-20 16:38 info at yourkit dot com
  2006-06-21  8:22 ` [Bug bootstrap/28101] " info at yourkit dot com
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: info at yourkit dot com @ 2006-06-20 16:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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1) host "uname -a" is "Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.11-1.14_FC3 #1 Thu Apr 7
19:25:50 EDT 2005 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"

2) binutils is configured with "../binutils-2.16.1/configure --target=$TARGET
--prefix=$PREFIX --disable-nls --with-sysroot=$PREFIX/sysroot"

where TARGET is "sparc-sun-solaris2.9",
PREFIX="/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9"

3) gcc is configured with "/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/configure
--target=$TARGET --prefix=$PREFIX --with-sysroot=$PREFIX/sysroot --with-gnu-as
--with-gnu-ld --disable-libgcj --enable-languages=c,c++"

4) All header files are copied from target Solaris machine from /usr/include
directory to $PREFIX/sysroot/usr/include directory.

We are getting error during compilation of first stage compiler. Here is the
end  of ouput of compilation process:

/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/xgcc -B/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/bin/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/lib/ -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/include -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sys-include -O2 
-O2 -g -O2  -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE   -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition  -isystem
./include  -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED 
-I. -I. -I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/.
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../include
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../libcpp/include  -DSHARED -DL_udiv_w_sdiv
-fexceptions -fnon-call-exceptions -c
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/libgcc2.c -o libgcc/./_udiv_w_sdiv_s.o
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/xgcc -B/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/bin/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/lib/ -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/include -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sys-include -O2 
-O2 -g -O2  -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE   -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition  -isystem
./include  -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED 
-I. -I. -I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/.
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../include
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../libcpp/include  -DSHARED -DL_udivmoddi4
-fexceptions -fnon-call-exceptions -c
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/libgcc2.c -o libgcc/./_udivmoddi4_s.o
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/xgcc -B/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/bin/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/lib/ -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/include -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sys-include -O2 
-O2 -g -O2  -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE   -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition  -isystem
./include  -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED 
-I. -I. -I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/.
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../include
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../libcpp/include  -DSHARED -fexceptions -c
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/unwind-dw2.c -o libgcc/./unwind-dw2_s.o
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function
‘uw_init_context_1’:
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1259: warning: missing braces
around initializer
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1259: warning: (near
initialization for ‘once_regsizes.__pthread_once_pad’)
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/xgcc -B/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/bin/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/lib/ -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/include -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sys-include -O2 
-O2 -g -O2  -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE   -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition  -isystem
./include  -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED 
-I. -I. -I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/.
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../include
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../libcpp/include  -DSHARED -fexceptions -c
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/unwind-dw2-fde.c -o
libgcc/./unwind-dw2-fde_s.o
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/xgcc -B/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/bin/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/lib/ -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/include -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sys-include -O2 
-O2 -g -O2  -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE   -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition  -isystem
./include  -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED 
-I. -I. -I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/.
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../include
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../libcpp/include  -DSHARED -fexceptions -c
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/unwind-sjlj.c -o libgcc/./unwind-sjlj_s.o
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/xgcc -B/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/bin/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/lib/ -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/include -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sys-include -O2 
-O2 -g -O2  -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE   -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition  -isystem
./include  -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED 
-I. -I. -I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/.
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../include
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../libcpp/include  -DSHARED -fexceptions -c
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/gthr-gnat.c -o libgcc/./gthr-gnat_s.o
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/xgcc -B/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/bin/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/lib/ -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/include -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sys-include -O2 
-O2 -g -O2  -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE   -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition  -isystem
./include  -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED 
-I. -I. -I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/.
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../include
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../libcpp/include  -DSHARED -fexceptions -c
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/unwind-c.c -o libgcc/./unwind-c_s.o
{ sparc-sun-solaris2.9-nm -pg libgcc/./_muldi3_s.o libgcc/./_negdi2_s.o
libgcc/./_lshrdi3_s.o libgcc/./_ashldi3_s.o libgcc/./_ashrdi3_s.o
libgcc/./_cmpdi2_s.o libgcc/./_ucmpdi2_s.o libgcc/./_floatdidf_s.o
libgcc/./_floatdisf_s.o libgcc/./_fixunsdfsi_s.o libgcc/./_fixunssfsi_s.o
libgcc/./_fixunsdfdi_s.o libgcc/./_fixdfdi_s.o libgcc/./_fixunssfdi_s.o
libgcc/./_fixsfdi_s.o libgcc/./_fixxfdi_s.o libgcc/./_fixunsxfdi_s.o
libgcc/./_floatdixf_s.o libgcc/./_fixunsxfsi_s.o libgcc/./_fixtfdi_s.o
libgcc/./_fixunstfdi_s.o libgcc/./_floatditf_s.o libgcc/./_clear_cache_s.o
libgcc/./_enable_execute_stack_s.o libgcc/./_trampoline_s.o libgcc/./__main_s.o
libgcc/./_absvsi2_s.o libgcc/./_absvdi2_s.o libgcc/./_addvsi3_s.o
libgcc/./_addvdi3_s.o libgcc/./_subvsi3_s.o libgcc/./_subvdi3_s.o
libgcc/./_mulvsi3_s.o libgcc/./_mulvdi3_s.o libgcc/./_negvsi2_s.o
libgcc/./_negvdi2_s.o libgcc/./_ctors_s.o libgcc/./_ffssi2_s.o
libgcc/./_ffsdi2_s.o libgcc/./_clz_s.o libgcc/./_clzsi2_s.o
libgcc/./_clzdi2_s.o libgcc/./_ctzsi2_s.o libgcc/./_ctzdi2_s.o
libgcc/./_popcount_tab_s.o libgcc/./_popcountsi2_s.o libgcc/./_popcountdi2_s.o
libgcc/./_paritysi2_s.o libgcc/./_paritydi2_s.o libgcc/./_powisf2_s.o
libgcc/./_powidf2_s.o libgcc/./_powixf2_s.o libgcc/./_powitf2_s.o
libgcc/./_mulsc3_s.o libgcc/./_muldc3_s.o libgcc/./_mulxc3_s.o
libgcc/./_multc3_s.o libgcc/./_divsc3_s.o libgcc/./_divdc3_s.o
libgcc/./_divxc3_s.o libgcc/./_divtc3_s.o libgcc/./_divdi3_s.o
libgcc/./_moddi3_s.o libgcc/./_udivdi3_s.o libgcc/./_umoddi3_s.o
libgcc/./_udiv_w_sdiv_s.o libgcc/./_udivmoddi4_s.o libgcc/./unwind-dw2_s.o
libgcc/./unwind-dw2-fde_s.o libgcc/./unwind-sjlj_s.o libgcc/./gthr-gnat_s.o
libgcc/./unwind-c_s.o; echo %%; \
  cat /home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/libgcc-std.ver \
    | sed -e '/^[   ]*#/d' \
          -e 's/^%\(if\|else\|elif\|endif\|define\)/#\1/' \
    | /home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/xgcc -B/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/bin/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/lib/ -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/include -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sys-include -O2 
-O2 -g -O2  -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE   -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition  -isystem
./include  -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED 
-I. -I. -I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/.
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../include
-I/home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/../libcpp/include   -E -xassembler-with-cpp
-; \
} | gawk -f /home/anton/tmp/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/mkmap-symver.awk  >
libgcc/./tmp-libgcc.map
mv 'libgcc/./tmp-libgcc.map' libgcc/./libgcc.map
/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/xgcc -B/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/./gcc/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/bin/
-B/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/lib/ -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/include -isystem
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/sys-include -O2 
-O2 -g -O2  -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE   -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition  -isystem
./include  -fPIC -g -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED 
-shared -nodefaultlibs -Wl,--soname=libgcc_s.so.1
-Wl,--version-script=libgcc/./libgcc.map -o ./libgcc_s.so.1.tmp 
libgcc/./_muldi3_s.o libgcc/./_negdi2_s.o libgcc/./_lshrdi3_s.o
libgcc/./_ashldi3_s.o libgcc/./_ashrdi3_s.o libgcc/./_cmpdi2_s.o
libgcc/./_ucmpdi2_s.o libgcc/./_floatdidf_s.o libgcc/./_floatdisf_s.o
libgcc/./_fixunsdfsi_s.o libgcc/./_fixunssfsi_s.o libgcc/./_fixunsdfdi_s.o
libgcc/./_fixdfdi_s.o libgcc/./_fixunssfdi_s.o libgcc/./_fixsfdi_s.o
libgcc/./_fixxfdi_s.o libgcc/./_fixunsxfdi_s.o libgcc/./_floatdixf_s.o
libgcc/./_fixunsxfsi_s.o libgcc/./_fixtfdi_s.o libgcc/./_fixunstfdi_s.o
libgcc/./_floatditf_s.o libgcc/./_clear_cache_s.o
libgcc/./_enable_execute_stack_s.o libgcc/./_trampoline_s.o libgcc/./__main_s.o
libgcc/./_absvsi2_s.o libgcc/./_absvdi2_s.o libgcc/./_addvsi3_s.o
libgcc/./_addvdi3_s.o libgcc/./_subvsi3_s.o libgcc/./_subvdi3_s.o
libgcc/./_mulvsi3_s.o libgcc/./_mulvdi3_s.o libgcc/./_negvsi2_s.o
libgcc/./_negvdi2_s.o libgcc/./_ctors_s.o libgcc/./_ffssi2_s.o
libgcc/./_ffsdi2_s.o libgcc/./_clz_s.o libgcc/./_clzsi2_s.o
libgcc/./_clzdi2_s.o libgcc/./_ctzsi2_s.o libgcc/./_ctzdi2_s.o
libgcc/./_popcount_tab_s.o libgcc/./_popcountsi2_s.o libgcc/./_popcountdi2_s.o
libgcc/./_paritysi2_s.o libgcc/./_paritydi2_s.o libgcc/./_powisf2_s.o
libgcc/./_powidf2_s.o libgcc/./_powixf2_s.o libgcc/./_powitf2_s.o
libgcc/./_mulsc3_s.o libgcc/./_muldc3_s.o libgcc/./_mulxc3_s.o
libgcc/./_multc3_s.o libgcc/./_divsc3_s.o libgcc/./_divdc3_s.o
libgcc/./_divxc3_s.o libgcc/./_divtc3_s.o libgcc/./_divdi3_s.o
libgcc/./_moddi3_s.o libgcc/./_udivdi3_s.o libgcc/./_umoddi3_s.o
libgcc/./_udiv_w_sdiv_s.o libgcc/./_udivmoddi4_s.o libgcc/./unwind-dw2_s.o
libgcc/./unwind-dw2-fde_s.o libgcc/./unwind-sjlj_s.o libgcc/./gthr-gnat_s.o
libgcc/./unwind-c_s.o -lc && rm -f ./libgcc_s.so && if [ -f ./libgcc_s.so.1 ];
then mv -f ./libgcc_s.so.1 ./libgcc_s.so.1.backup; else true; fi && mv
./libgcc_s.so.1.tmp ./libgcc_s.so.1 && ln -s libgcc_s.so.1 ./libgcc_s.so
/opt/crossgcc-4.1.1/sparc-sun-solaris2.9/bin/sparc-sun-solaris2.9-ld:
values-Xa.o: No such file: No such file or directory
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [libgcc_s.so] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/gcc'
make[1]: *** [stmp-multilib] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/anton/tmp/gcc/objdir/gcc'
make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2


-- 
           Summary: Cannot build cross compiler for Solaris: values-Xa.o: No
                    such file: No such file or directory
           Product: gcc
           Version: 4.1.1
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: critical
          Priority: P3
         Component: bootstrap
        AssignedTo: unassigned at gcc dot gnu dot org
        ReportedBy: info at yourkit dot com
  GCC host triplet: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
GCC target triplet: sparc-sun-solaris2.9


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28101


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* [Bug bootstrap/28101] Cannot build cross compiler for Solaris: values-Xa.o: No such file: No such file or directory
  2006-06-20 16:38 [Bug bootstrap/28101] New: Cannot build cross compiler for Solaris: values-Xa.o: No such file: No such file or directory info at yourkit dot com
@ 2006-06-21  8:22 ` info at yourkit dot com
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From: info at yourkit dot com @ 2006-06-21  8:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gcc-bugs



------- Comment #1 from info at yourkit dot com  2006-06-21 08:10 -------
All librarues from /usr/lib (from target Solaris machine) should be copied to
$PREFIX/sysroot/usr/lib


-- 

info at yourkit dot com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |INVALID


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28101


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