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From: "mark at codesourcery dot com" <gcc-bugzilla@gcc.gnu.org>
To: gcc-bugs@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: [Bug libstdc++/29286] [4.0/4.1/4.2/4.3 Regression] placement new does not change the dynamic type as it should
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 18:01:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070518180138.15055.qmail@sourceware.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bug-29286-10053@http.gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/>



------- Comment #93 from mark at codesourcery dot com  2007-05-18 19:01 -------
Subject: Re:  [4.0/4.1/4.2/4.3 Regression] placement
 new does not change the dynamic type as it should

ian at airs dot com wrote:

> void f(double* p) { *(int*)p = 3; long *l = new (p) long; *l = 4; }
> void g() { int i; f((double *)&i); }
> 
> And the specific question is whether we are permitted to interchange the
> assignments to *p and *l.

I do not think we are.

> void f(double* p) { *(int*)p = 3; long *l = (long*)p; *l = 4; }
> 
> Is that valid?  Is the compiler permitted to interchange the assignments to *p
> and *l?  Consider that, as in comment #73, p might actually point to a union of
> int and long.  Does that fact that that union might exist somewhere else make
> this test case valid?  Presumably it does not.  Presumably this is invalid.

Agreed; this case is invalid.

> So if that is not valid, and the placement new case is valid, then what is the
> essential difference between the cases?  The variable is being accessed via two
> different types.  Why is that OK?

Because placement new changes the type of storage, in the same way that
using ordinary ("delete") and then using (ordinary) "new" (but getting
back the same memory pointer) does.  The placement "new" operator is
special.

> You're right that don't have to abandon TBAA to make this work, that we can
> make it work by turning placement new into a memory barrier.  But then you have
> to address comment #42.  That approach will cause a performance regression for
> natural valid code.  The question then becomes whether we are willing to pay
> that performance regression for normal code in order to support this sort of
> weird code.

I am willing to accept that performance regression.  I don't consider
that code "normal"; many C++ performance libraries now provide a way to
produce an uninitialized container, precisely to avoid default
construction.  POOMA could use that technique.

It would of course be better (though, in my opinion, not essential) to
have a more gentle barrier.  If we could tell the compiler to forget the
type of anything that the argument to placement-new might point to, but
not to assume that arbitrary weirdness has occurred, then the compiler
could still eliminate the redundant stores.

In other words, in Comment #42, the problem is that the volatile asm
tells the compiler that not only must the stores/loads not be reordered
across the barrier, but that stores before the barrier must actually
occur because their may be some arbitrary action at the barrier that
depends upon the values written.  If we had a barrier that says just
that the operations may not be reordered across the barrier -- but does
not say that the operations before the barrier are side-effecting --
then we could still eliminate them as redundant.


-- 


http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29286


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-18 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 190+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-29 14:14 [Bug libstdc++/29286] New: placement new does not provide required side-effects rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-09-29 14:15 ` [Bug libstdc++/29286] " rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-09-29 14:17 ` [Bug libstdc++/29286] [4.2 Regression] " rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-09-29 14:30 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2006-09-29 14:38 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-09-29 14:52 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2006-09-29 15:49 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-09-29 15:51 ` [Bug libstdc++/29286] [4.2 Regression] placement new does not change the dynamic type as it should pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-09-29 16:08 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2006-09-29 16:19 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-09-29 16:23 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2006-09-29 16:25 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-09-29 16:25 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-09-29 16:58 ` [Bug libstdc++/29286] [4.0/4.1/4.2 " pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-09-29 17:01 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-10-01 18:39 ` mmitchel at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-10-01 23:05 ` mmitchel at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-10-02  9:32 ` mrs at apple dot com
2006-10-02 17:48 ` mmitchel at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-10-02 19:28 ` mrs at apple dot com
2006-10-03 16:03 ` ian at airs dot com
2006-10-03 16:13 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2006-10-03 23:44 ` ian at airs dot com
2006-10-04  5:39 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2006-10-24  6:53   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2006-10-09  8:22 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2006-10-24  6:53 ` [Bug libstdc++/29286] [4.0/4.1/4.2/4.3 " gdr at integrable-solutions dot net
2006-12-29 20:28 ` dberlin at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-01-01  0:41 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-01-02  3:01   ` Daniel Berlin
2007-01-02  3:01 ` dberlin at dberlin dot org
2007-01-02  3:24 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-02 15:57 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-02 16:11 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-02 16:14 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-02 20:41 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-03 19:33 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-03 20:45 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2007-05-03 20:49 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-03 20:59 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-03 21:25 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2007-05-04  2:47 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-04  3:54 ` bangerth at dealii dot org
2007-05-04  6:37 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-04  8:41 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2007-05-04 10:45 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-04 11:04 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2007-05-04 11:08 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2007-05-04 12:03 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-04 14:31 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-04 15:55 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-04 15:57 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-11 23:22 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-12  0:36 ` dberlin at dberlin dot org
2007-05-12  9:48 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-12 11:11 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-12 13:29 ` dberlin at dberlin dot org
2007-05-12 18:41 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-12 18:44 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-12 21:48 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-13 10:04 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-14  3:45 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-14  4:00 ` dberlin at dberlin dot org
2007-05-14  8:25 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-14 11:44   ` Daniel Berlin
2007-05-14 11:44 ` dberlin at dberlin dot org
2007-05-14 15:20 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-14 15:38 ` dberlin at dberlin dot org
2007-05-14 16:42 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-14 17:14 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-14 21:25 ` mmitchel at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-14 21:36 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-14 21:37 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-14 21:40 ` dberlin at dberlin dot org
2007-05-16  5:33 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-16  9:57 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-16 12:06 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-16 13:49 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-16 14:02 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-16 14:37 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-16 16:08 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-16 17:02 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-16 23:42 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-18  6:15 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-18  6:25 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-18  6:27 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-18  8:46 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-18  8:47 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-18 13:26 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-18 13:30 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-18 13:46 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-18 16:25 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-18 16:28 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-18 21:04   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2007-05-18 16:36 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-18 16:44 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-18 17:38 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-18 21:12   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2007-05-18 17:46 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2007-05-18 17:55 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-18 18:01 ` mark at codesourcery dot com [this message]
2007-05-18 18:03 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-18 19:55 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-18 20:12 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2007-05-18 20:17 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-18 20:27 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2007-05-18 20:38 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2007-05-18 21:04 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-18 21:12 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-18 21:16 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-18 21:17 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-18 21:44 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2007-05-22  9:50 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-22 15:05 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-22 15:54   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2007-05-22 15:20 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-05-22 15:55 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-22 16:20 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-22 16:25   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2007-05-22 16:25 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-22 16:38 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-22 16:46   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2007-05-22 16:47 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-22 16:54 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-22 17:02 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-22 17:11 ` dberlin at dberlin dot org
2007-05-22 17:13 ` dberlin at dberlin dot org
2007-05-22 17:20 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-22 17:34 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-22 17:41 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-22 17:55 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-22 19:13 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-22 19:42 ` mrs at apple dot com
2007-05-22 19:53 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-23  8:35 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-05-23 13:23 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-23 13:43 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-05-23 14:24 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-23 14:38 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-05-23 15:00 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
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2007-05-23 18:03 ` dberlin at dberlin dot org
2007-05-23 18:44 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-23 18:54 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
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2007-05-23 19:10 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-23 19:46 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-23 19:57 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-05-23 20:01 ` joseph at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-23 20:07 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-23 20:13 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-23 20:16 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-05-23 20:27 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-23 20:48 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-05-23 21:02 ` dberlin at dberlin dot org
2007-05-23 21:13 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
2007-05-23 22:42 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-23 22:50 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-23 22:56 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-23 22:58 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-23 23:58 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-24  0:07 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-24  8:04 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-05-24  9:08 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-05-24  9:11 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-05-24  9:29 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-24  9:33 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-05-24  9:47 ` gdr at cs dot tamu dot edu
2007-05-25 23:22 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-27 14:57 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-05-28 11:14 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-05-28 11:24 ` dberlin at dberlin dot org
2007-05-28 17:30 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-05-30 23:19 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-06-04 14:02 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-06-05 16:20 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-06-05 20:48 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-06-05 21:17 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-06-06  5:33 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-06-06  8:41 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-06-08  7:50 ` ian at airs dot com
2007-06-08 13:47 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2007-06-09  9:48 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-06-09  9:55 ` pcarlini at suse dot de
2007-06-09 12:03 ` bkoz at gcc dot gnu dot org
2007-06-09 19:29 ` mark at codesourcery dot com
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