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* [Bug fortran/43115] New: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
@ 2010-02-18 17:59 cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr
2010-02-18 18:16 ` [Bug fortran/43115] " kargl at gcc dot gnu dot org
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From: cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr @ 2010-02-18 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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listing of the gfortran program whith the bug
use iso_fortran_env
implicit none
integer,parameter:: mligne = 10000,n2 = 10
character(len = n2 + 2):: ligne ! the bug is here : 2 is not necessary
for reading essai.f95 : 10 max character per line
! character(len = n2 ):: ligne ! the bug is here did not work : only 8
max character per line
! character(len = n2 + 1):: ligne ! the bug is here did not work : only 9
max character per line
character(len = 260):: string
integer:: i,j,iosta,nligne
write(output_unit,*) ' name of he file to read'
read(input_unit,*) string
open(unit = 7,action = 'read',file = string)
do i = 1,mligne
read(unit = 7,fmt = '(a)',iostat = iosta) ligne
if(iosta .eq. iostat_end) go to 100
if(iosta .eq. iostat_eor) go to 200
200 continue
end do
100 continue
close(unit = 7)
nligne = i - 1
write(6,*) "number of read lines = ",nligne
end
listing of the file not correctly read : essai.f95 :
12345
123456
1234567
12345678
123456789
1234567890
123456789
12345678
1234567
123456
12345
Because no bug on Linux : end of line : Carriage return + form feed ?
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Summary: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
Product: gcc
Version: 4.5.0
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: P3
Component: fortran
AssignedTo: unassigned at gcc dot gnu dot org
ReportedBy: cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr
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* [Bug fortran/43115] bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
2010-02-18 17:59 [Bug fortran/43115] New: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr
@ 2010-02-18 18:16 ` kargl at gcc dot gnu dot org
2010-02-18 23:23 ` cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr
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From: kargl at gcc dot gnu dot org @ 2010-02-18 18:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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------- Comment #1 from kargl at gcc dot gnu dot org 2010-02-18 18:15 -------
Please attach the files to the PR. Cut and paste from
bugzilla will mangle the files; particularly, if it is
a CRLF problem.
Also, try removing your iostat usage and see if the
the operating system generates an error, or use
iomsg. Something like
str = 'OK'
open(unit = 7, action = 'read', file = string)
do i = 1,mligne
read(unit = 7, fmt = '(a)', iostat = iosta, iomsg=str) ligne
print *, trim(str)
On FreeBSD, I get
troutmask:sgk[223] ./z
name of he file to read
abc
OK
OK
OK
OK
OK
OK
OK
OK
OK
OK
OK
End of file
number of read lines = 11
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* [Bug fortran/43115] bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
2010-02-18 17:59 [Bug fortran/43115] New: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr
2010-02-18 18:16 ` [Bug fortran/43115] " kargl at gcc dot gnu dot org
@ 2010-02-18 23:23 ` cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr
2010-02-19 0:43 ` kargl at gcc dot gnu dot org
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From: cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr @ 2010-02-18 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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------- Comment #2 from cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr 2010-02-18 23:22 -------
Subject: Re: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
You have not understand the problem :
It is a gfortran bug, with and only with Windows, you must test this problem
with Windows not Linux.
The listing of the Fortran file is :
Fortran95 file :
use iso_fortran_env
implicit none
integer,parameter:: mligne = 10000,n2 = 10
character(len = n2 + 2):: ligne ! the bug is here 2 is not necessary
for reading essai.f95 : 10 max character per line
! character(len = n2 ):: ligne ! the bug is here, did not work : only
8 max character per line
! character(len = n2 + 1):: ligne ! the bug is here, did not work : only
9 max character per line
character(len = 260):: string
integer:: i,j,iosta,nligne
write(output_unit,*) ' name of he file to read'
read(input_unit,*) string
open(unit = 7,action = 'read',file = string)
do i = 1,mligne
read(unit = 7,fmt = '(a)',iostat = iosta) ligne
if(iosta .eq. iostat_end) go to 100
if(iosta .eq. iostat_eor) go to 200
200 continue
end do
100 continue
close(unit = 7)
nligne = i - 1
write(6,*) "number of read lines = ",nligne
end
end of Fortran95 file
The file to read is, and it is only if you read this file you understand the
problem, and this file must be a Windows file not a Linux file. Generate it
with the notepad but in Windows. All the testing work must be made with
Windows not Linux.
file to read : essai.f95
12345
123456
1234567
12345678
123456789
1234567890
123456789
12345678
1234567
123456
12345
end of file to read
it is with lines of 10 and 9 characters you have problems with n2 = 10 in
the Fortan95 program and only with Windows, my Windows is Vista
No problem with gfortran on Linux : my Linux is : Suse11.2
It is the same problem with the use of iomsg=str in the read statement and
no iostat
The NAG Compiler as the same problem on Windows and not with Linux, exactly
the same as with gfortran
----- Original Message -----
From: "kargl at gcc dot gnu dot org" <gcc-bugzilla@gcc.gnu.org>
To: <cgerdy@wanadoo.fr>
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:15 PM
Subject: [Bug fortran/43115] bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on
Linux
>
>
>
> ------- Comment #1 from kargl at gcc dot gnu dot org 2010-02-18
> 18:15 -------
> Please attach the files to the PR. Cut and paste from
> bugzilla will mangle the files; particularly, if it is
> a CRLF problem.
>
> Also, try removing your iostat usage and see if the
> the operating system generates an error, or use
> iomsg. Something like
>
> str = 'OK'
> open(unit = 7, action = 'read', file = string)
> do i = 1,mligne
> read(unit = 7, fmt = '(a)', iostat = iosta, iomsg=str) ligne
> print *, trim(str)
>
> On FreeBSD, I get
> troutmask:sgk[223] ./z
> name of he file to read
> abc
> OK
> OK
> OK
> OK
> OK
> OK
> OK
> OK
> OK
> OK
> OK
> End of file
> number of read lines = 11
>
>
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>
>
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* [Bug fortran/43115] bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
2010-02-18 17:59 [Bug fortran/43115] New: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr
2010-02-18 18:16 ` [Bug fortran/43115] " kargl at gcc dot gnu dot org
2010-02-18 23:23 ` cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr
@ 2010-02-19 0:43 ` kargl at gcc dot gnu dot org
2010-02-19 0:52 ` jvdelisle at gcc dot gnu dot org
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From: kargl at gcc dot gnu dot org @ 2010-02-19 0:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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------- Comment #3 from kargl at gcc dot gnu dot org 2010-02-19 00:43 -------
(In reply to comment #2)
> Subject: Re: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
>
> You have not understand the problem :
> It is a gfortran bug, with and only with Windows, you must test this problem
> with Windows not Linux.
I understood the problem. It is you who does not
understand. PLEASE ATTACH THE FILES TO THE BUG
REPORT. DO NOT PASTE THE FILE INTO YOUR EMAIL
OR BUGZILLA.
When you used iomsg, what did it contain on each
read? Did it report that the read was successful?
If you want help, give us the requested information.
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* [Bug fortran/43115] bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
2010-02-18 17:59 [Bug fortran/43115] New: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr
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From: jvdelisle at gcc dot gnu dot org @ 2010-02-19 0:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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------- Comment #4 from jvdelisle at gcc dot gnu dot org 2010-02-19 00:52 -------
I have gfortran freshly compiled on a Vista machine. I will take a look at
this tonight if I can find some time. This may be a target specific bug, but I
can't tell until I observe it first hand. Please attach the files if you can.
Are the lines in the input file as seen with CR-LF right after the last visible
character?
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* [Bug fortran/43115] bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
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------- Comment #5 from jvdelisle at gcc dot gnu dot org 2010-02-19 00:53 -------
The reason the CR-LF is important is that this is basically the only real
difference between Linux and Windows other than the OS libraries.
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* [Bug fortran/43115] bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
2010-02-18 17:59 [Bug fortran/43115] New: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr
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------- Comment #6 from jvdelisle at gcc dot gnu dot org 2010-02-19 05:32 -------
I can not reproduce the problem with gfortran 4.5 on Vista. What version pf
gfortran are you using. Post the response to "gfortran -v" please.
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* [Bug fortran/43115] bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
2010-02-18 17:59 [Bug fortran/43115] New: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr
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From: cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr @ 2010-02-19 9:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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------- Comment #7 from cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr 2010-02-19 09:53 -------
Subject: Re: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
Excuse me but I do not understand how correctly use "gfortran -v"
I download gfortran on :
http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GFortranBinaries
and on that page : installer(dated 2009-04-21)
After the installation, it is impossible to read which version of gfortran
: not in the name of the file : gfortran-windows.exe or in another file in
the directory gfortran
The only information is : (dated 2009-04-21) on the Internet page.
Thank you to have been patience.
For me, which is french, to post a bug in the gcc bugzilla is a labyrinth
work : many question to answer and for, many of them, I do not understand
them.
My first speciality is : physical mathematic, and my site is :
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/claude.gerdy where students can download in freeware
an editor for Fortran77, 90, 95, 2003 in fix form or free form.
To navigate in the bugzilla page and answer to the questions it is necessary
to have a special driving licence...
Thank you very much.
Claude
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From: "jvdelisle at gcc dot gnu dot org" <gcc-bugzilla@gcc.gnu.org>
To: <cgerdy@wanadoo.fr>
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 6:32 AM
Subject: [Bug fortran/43115] bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on
Linux
>
>
>
> ------- Comment #6 from jvdelisle at gcc dot gnu dot org 2010-02-19
> 05:32 -------
> I can not reproduce the problem with gfortran 4.5 on Vista. What version
> pf
> gfortran are you using. Post the response to "gfortran -v" please.
>
>
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* [Bug fortran/43115] bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
2010-02-18 17:59 [Bug fortran/43115] New: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr
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------- Comment #8 from jvdelisle at gcc dot gnu dot org 2010-02-19 18:56 -------
If the date is correct, it is an older version.
At the command line just type: gfortran -v
gfortran will then display the version information for you.
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* [Bug fortran/43115] bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
2010-02-18 17:59 [Bug fortran/43115] New: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr
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------- Comment #9 from cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr 2010-02-19 22:17 -------
Subject: Re: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
thank you
That is the answer to your question :
C:\Users\gerdy>gfortran -v
Using built-in specs.
Target: i586-pc-mingw32
Configured with:
../gcc-trunk/configure --prefix=/mingw --enable-languages=c,for
tran --with-gmp=/home/FX/gfortran/dependencies --disable-werror
--enable-threads
--disable-nls --build=i586-pc-mingw32 --enable-libgomp --disable-shared
--disab
le-win32-registry --with-dwarf2 --disable-sjlj-exceptions
Thread model: win32
gcc version 4.5.0 20090421 (experimental) [trunk revision 146519] (GCC)
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To: <cgerdy@wanadoo.fr>
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:56 PM
Subject: [Bug fortran/43115] bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on
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>
>
>
> ------- Comment #8 from jvdelisle at gcc dot gnu dot org 2010-02-19
> 18:56 -------
> If the date is correct, it is an older version.
>
> At the command line just type: gfortran -v
>
> gfortran will then display the version information for you.
>
>
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* [Bug fortran/43115] bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
2010-02-18 17:59 [Bug fortran/43115] New: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr
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From: cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr @ 2010-02-20 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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------- Comment #10 from cgerdy at wanadoo dot fr 2010-02-20 16:24 -------
Subject: Re: bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on Linux
I made a new test with an older version of gfortran I had download on your
Internet page for Windows :
http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GFortranBinaries and on that page : installer
It is the only possibility for somebody which is outside of gnu to download
gfortran for Windows,
and by : gfortran -v, I obtain the version : it was the older 4.2.0 version.
It is necessary to modify my program to test the bug because this older
version do not know the
line : use iso_fortran_env but and it is important, after that :
This older version of gfortran have not this bug.
So go to the http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GFortranBinaries download gfortran and
test the bug
After that the question for you is : where is the file in this page inside
gnu and make the correction.
Thank you
Claude
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To: <cgerdy@wanadoo.fr>
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:56 PM
Subject: [Bug fortran/43115] bug with gfortran on Windows vista, correct on
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>
>
>
> ------- Comment #8 from jvdelisle at gcc dot gnu dot org 2010-02-19
> 18:56 -------
> If the date is correct, it is an older version.
>
> At the command line just type: gfortran -v
>
> gfortran will then display the version information for you.
>
>
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------- Comment #11 from jvdelisle at gcc dot gnu dot org 2010-02-21 04:06 -------
I have been able to reproduce this with the binary from the wiki. We get an
END condition at line 5 of the test file. You have to use the test case with:
character(len = n2 ):: ligne
I have a vague recollection of this bug being fixed since April 2009.....
Most likely PR41328. The length of the read falls between the CR and the LF.
It is fixed on trunk, so we really need to get that binary on the wiki updated.
Lets hold this PR open until that happens.
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------- Comment #12 from jvdelisle at gcc dot gnu dot org 2010-04-15 00:48 -------
There are more resent versions of gfortran available at Mingw. Closing this
bug. If the problem persists after updating to more recent, please reopen.
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