From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by sourceware.org (Postfix, from userid 48) id 62A50388C031; Thu, 6 May 2021 10:05:38 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 62A50388C031 From: "redi at gcc dot gnu.org" To: gcc-bugs@gcc.gnu.org Subject: [Bug libstdc++/100444] std::random_device isn't random on AMD Date: Thu, 06 May 2021 10:05:38 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: gcc X-Bugzilla-Component: libstdc++ X-Bugzilla-Version: 10.2.1 X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: normal X-Bugzilla-Who: redi at gcc dot gnu.org X-Bugzilla-Status: UNCONFIRMED X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: P3 X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: unassigned at gcc dot gnu.org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: gcc-bugs@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc-bugs mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 May 2021 10:05:38 -0000 https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D100444 --- Comment #5 from Jonathan Wakely --- (In reply to Richard Biener from comment #4) > Thus I believe the issue is mitigated at the kernel level and people that Yes, that's my understanding. > cannot be bothered to update their ucode or the kernel are not likely > bothered to update libstdc++ either. Note handling it above would > raise a runtime error rather than falling back to other sources of > randomness. > Doing the checking where we detect rdrand support would avoid that. I suppose we could use the rdrand instruction a couple of times when doing = the cpuid support, and if it gives the same value conclude it's broken and so n= ot available. But as you say, people who haven't bothered to update microcode probably ar= en't going to get a libstdc++ update either.=