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From: "jason at gcc dot gnu.org" <gcc-bugzilla@gcc.gnu.org>
To: gcc-bugs@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: [Bug middle-end/103483] [12 regression] context-sensitive ranges change triggers stringop-overread
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 05:03:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bug-103483-4-FpvxqLCRCR@http.gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bug-103483-4@http.gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/>

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=103483

--- Comment #18 from Jason Merrill <jason at gcc dot gnu.org> ---
(In reply to Martin Sebor from comment #17)
> https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2019/03/13/understanding-gcc-warnings- part-2

Yes, this is a good description of the general problem.

> It might seem like the common denominator in all these instances is ranges,
> but they're a red herring.  The same effect can be demonstrated without
> them.  The root cause behind them all is that (again) warnings are designed
> to trigger for apparently reachable invalid IL.

But for this and several other warnings, we only think it's invalid because of
ranges; I disagree that they're a red herring.

> If you consider any of the warnings above false positives you must consider
> as such all of them.

Agreed.

> The best solution, in my view, is to show users the conditionals
> under which the invalid statements can be reached.  I hoped to be able to do
> that by extending Ranger
> (https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-December/237922.html)

This sounds useful, and somewhat related to what I was trying to suggest:
recognize the case where the only information we have about a value range is
path-derived, and make  that subset of warnings optional, for warnings we don't
give when we have no information at all about the value range.

To put it another way, if the only reason we think a statement is invalid is
because of information deduced from conditions we took to get here, we probably
don't want to warn by default.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-28  5:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-30  4:27 [Bug c++/103483] New: constexpr basic_string " john at mcfarlane dot name
2021-11-30  4:39 ` [Bug c++/103483] context-sensitive ranges change " pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org
2021-11-30 12:11 ` redi at gcc dot gnu.org
2021-11-30 17:56 ` [Bug middle-end/103483] " msebor at gcc dot gnu.org
2021-11-30 18:13 ` msebor at gcc dot gnu.org
2021-11-30 22:33 ` john at mcfarlane dot name
2021-12-01 16:38 ` aldyh at gcc dot gnu.org
2021-12-01 16:53 ` redi at gcc dot gnu.org
2021-12-01 23:38 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org
2021-12-01 23:44 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org
2021-12-02 22:14 ` msebor at gcc dot gnu.org
2021-12-09 23:24 ` cvs-commit at gcc dot gnu.org
2021-12-10 22:10 ` jason at gcc dot gnu.org
2021-12-11  0:56 ` msebor at gcc dot gnu.org
2021-12-11 22:43 ` jason at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-01-17 22:44 ` [Bug middle-end/103483] [12 regression] " jason at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-01-17 23:10 ` amacleod at redhat dot com
2022-01-18  0:47 ` msebor at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-01-28  2:02 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-01-28  5:03 ` jason at gcc dot gnu.org [this message]
2022-01-28  6:38 ` law at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-01-28  7:48 ` redi at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-01-28 15:23 ` law at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-03-09 14:11 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-03-14 23:58 ` msebor at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-05-06  8:32 ` [Bug middle-end/103483] [12/13 " jakub at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-10-19  9:43 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2023-05-08 12:23 ` [Bug middle-end/103483] [12/13/14 " rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org

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