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From: "muecker at gwdg dot de" <gcc-bugzilla@gcc.gnu.org>
To: gcc-bugs@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: [Bug middle-end/104800] reodering of potentially trapping operations and volatile stores
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2022 07:40:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bug-104800-4-qckkGFrgpv@http.gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bug-104800-4@http.gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/>

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=104800

--- Comment #11 from Martin Uecker <muecker at gwdg dot de> ---
(In reply to Richard Biener from comment #9)
> (In reply to Martin Uecker from comment #8)
> > The standard specifies in 5.1.2.3p6 that
> > 
> > "— Volatile accesses to objects are evaluated strictly
> > according to the rules of the abstract machine."
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > "This is the observable behavior of the program."
> > 
> > 
> > If a trap is moved before a volatile access so that the access never
> > happens, than this changes the observable behavior because the volatile
> > access was then not evaluated strictly according to the abstract machine.
> 
> Well, the volatile access _was_ evaluated strictly according to the abstract
> machine. 

Not if there is a trap.

> Can't your argument be stretched in a way that for
> 
>  global = 2;
>  *volatile = 1;
> 
> your reasoning says that since the volatile has to be evaluated strictly
> according to the abstract machine that the full abstract machine status
> has to be reflected at the point of the volatile and thus the write of
> the global (non-volatile) memory has to be observable at that point
> and so we may not move accesses to global memory across (earlier or later)
> volatile accesses?

The state of the global variables is not directly observable.

> IMHO the case with the division is similar, you just introduce the extra
> twist of a trap.

The point is that the trap prevents the volatile store to happen.

> The two volatile accesses in your example are still evaluated according
> to the abstract machine, just all non-volatile (and non-I/O) statements
> are not necessarily.

The problem is that the volatile store might not be evaluated if there is a
trap.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-09  7:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-05 18:46 [Bug tree-optimization/104800] New: " muecker at gwdg dot de
2022-03-05 18:50 ` [Bug tree-optimization/104800] " muecker at gwdg dot de
2022-03-05 21:07 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-03-06  5:04 ` [Bug middle-end/104800] " paulmckrcu at gmail dot com
2022-03-06  6:46 ` muecker at gwdg dot de
2022-03-06  6:54 ` muecker at gwdg dot de
2022-03-07  8:52 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-03-07 17:47 ` paulmckrcu at gmail dot com
2022-03-08 20:27 ` muecker at gwdg dot de
2022-03-09  7:26 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-03-09  7:29 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-03-09  7:40 ` muecker at gwdg dot de [this message]
2022-03-09  7:42 ` muecker at gwdg dot de
2022-03-09  7:52 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2022-03-09  8:06 ` rguenther at suse dot de
2022-03-09  9:05 ` muecker at gwdg dot de
2022-03-09  9:10 ` muecker at gwdg dot de

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