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From: "burnus at gcc dot gnu.org" <gcc-bugzilla@gcc.gnu.org>
To: gcc-bugs@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: [Bug target/105246] New: [amdgcn] Use library call for SQRT with -ffast-math + provide additional option to use single-precsion opcode
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:29:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bug-105246-4@http.gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/> (raw)

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=105246

            Bug ID: 105246
           Summary: [amdgcn] Use library call for SQRT with -ffast-math +
                    provide additional option to use single-precsion
                    opcode
           Product: gcc
           Version: 12.0
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Keywords: documentation, wrong-code
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: target
          Assignee: unassigned at gcc dot gnu.org
          Reporter: burnus at gcc dot gnu.org
                CC: ams at gcc dot gnu.org
  Target Milestone: ---
            Target: amdgcn-amdhsa

AMD GCN hardware has opcodes which operate on double-precision variables as
input/output but internally only do single-precision operation.

This affects (currently) only "sqrt" which for -funsafe-math-optimizations
(implied by -Ofast / -ffast-math) uses AMDGCN's "v_sqrt".

Namely gcc/config/gcn/gcn-valu.md has:

(define_insn "sqrt<mode>2<exec>"
...
  "flag_unsafe_math_optimizations"
  "v_sqrt%i0\t%0, %1"


Thus: while "v_sqrt" works on double-precision variables, it only calculates
with 23bits (as with float32) instead of 52bits (as float64 provides) for the
fractional part of the floating-point number.


PROBLEM: In many cases, this loss of precision by an order of 100,000,000 (10⁸
/ 2²⁹) is
very unexpected and too much for code which requires double precision. An ULP
of 4 is
expected not an ULP of 10⁸!

In particular: In order to permit several optimizations, -Ofast or --fast-math
is
commonly recommended and the precision loss is unexpected.

In terms of testsuites, OvO's sqrt examples are effected, requiring a way
higher
OVO_TOL_ULP to pass (→ https://github.com/TApplencourt/OvO )
But the issue really came up when discussion with HPC code users.

EXPECTED:
- By default, with -ffast-math, do the double-precision operation by a library
call
- Provide some (GCN-specific) -m... flag to do those calculations in single
precision.

For instance something like:

 -mpermit-reduced-precision
     Use hardware intrinsics instead of library even if they provide a much
     reduced precision. Example: use v_sqrt with double-precision variables
     even though the hardware only provides single-precision results for the
     fractional part of the floating-point variable. (Default: disabled)

             reply	other threads:[~2022-04-12 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-12 17:29 burnus at gcc dot gnu.org [this message]
2022-04-13  6:35 ` [Bug target/105246] " rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-04-13  8:29 ` ams at gcc dot gnu.org

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