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From: "agner at agner dot org" <gcc-bugzilla@gcc.gnu.org>
To: gcc-bugs@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: [Bug c/49820] Explicit check for integer negative after abs optimized away
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:28:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bug-49820-4-IQQZ0WhBO6@http.gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bug-49820-4@http.gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/>

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=49820

--- Comment #15 from Agner Fog <agner at agner dot org> 2011-07-27 14:27:33 UTC ---
How do you define "clever things"? Checking that a variable is within the
allowed range is certainly a standard thing that every SW teacher tells you to
do. I think it is reasonable to expect -Wall to do what it says and set a very
high warning level. Optimizing away an overflow check is such a dangerous thing
to do that it requires a warning.

I think it may be wise to distinguish between optimizing away a whole branch or
loop, versus just making calculations more efficient, e.g. simplifying
expressions or making induction variables. If a branch can be optimized away
then it is either violating the intentions of the programmer or the program has
a logical error. A warning would be in place in either case.

What I am suggesting is that optimizing away a branch should give a warning at
a lower level than simplifying an arithmetic expression. I know this might be
somewhat complicated to implement, but it would be useful for catching the
situation where an overflow check is optimized away.

Checking for overflow in a "safe" way is so complicated and tedious that it is
practically never done (see
https://www.securecoding.cert.org/confluence/display/seccode/INT32-C.+Ensure+that+operations+on+signed+integers+do+not+result+in+overflow
)

Sorry for being persistent, but I think this issue has serious security
implications.


      parent reply	other threads:[~2011-07-27 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-23  7:11 [Bug c/49820] New: " agner at agner dot org
2011-07-23  7:20 ` [Bug c/49820] " schwab@linux-m68k.org
2011-07-23 17:23 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org
2011-07-23 17:30 ` schwab@linux-m68k.org
2011-07-23 20:48 ` noloader at gmail dot com
2011-07-23 20:59 ` ebotcazou at gcc dot gnu.org
2011-07-23 22:28 ` noloader at gmail dot com
2011-07-24  8:10 ` ebotcazou at gcc dot gnu.org
2011-07-24  8:17 ` agner at agner dot org
2011-07-24  9:41 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org
2011-07-25  7:44 ` agner at agner dot org
2011-07-25  7:46 ` ebotcazou at gcc dot gnu.org
2011-07-25 14:22 ` agner at agner dot org
2011-07-26 19:32 ` agner at agner dot org
2011-07-27 11:23 ` ebotcazou at gcc dot gnu.org
2011-07-27 14:28 ` agner at agner dot org [this message]

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