[Bug web/54973] New: [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[Bug web/54973] New: [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[redi at gcc dot gnu.org]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

             Bug #: 54973
           Summary: [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more
                    prominent
    Classification: Unclassified
           Product: gcc
           Version: 4.8.0
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: enhancement
          Priority: P3
         Component: web
        AssignedTo: unassigned@gcc.gnu.org
        ReportedBy: redi@gcc.gnu.org
                CC: LpSolit@netscape.net


The top of the Enter Bug page says:

"Before reporting a bug, please read the bug writing guidelines, please look at
the list of most frequently reported bugs, and please search for the bug."

with links to important pages describing the info needed in a bug report
(preprocessed source, output of "gcc -v" etc.) as well as suggesting checking
for compiler warnings before reporting a non-bug.

Many first-time bug reporters apparently don't read the guidelines because they
don't submit testcases, don't provide the compilation command, don't say which
compiler version they're using etc. which requires a maintainer to reply asking
for that info and set the bug to WAITING, wasting time and effort for the
reporter and maintainers.

I think the notice at the top of the page could be far more prominent, maybe it
could even duplicate some of the most important info from the top of the
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs page.

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[LpSolit at netscape dot net]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

--- Comment #1 from Frédéric Buclin <LpSolit at netscape dot net> 2012-10-18 12:51:28 UTC ---
If you attach a mockup, I can easily write the corresponding code.

This new big notice should only be visible to users with no privileges, right?
I guess that all users with editbugs privs know what is appropriate to report
and what is not.

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[redi at gcc dot gnu.org]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

--- Comment #2 from Jonathan Wakely <redi at gcc dot gnu.org> 2012-10-18 13:00:34 UTC ---
I was assuming it would be visible to everyone because it's harmless and can be
ignored (I'm sure many users will still ignore it!) but if other privileged
users don't want to see it and it's easy to do then it could be hidden from
them

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[redi at gcc dot gnu.org]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

--- Comment #3 from Jonathan Wakely <redi at gcc dot gnu.org> 2012-10-18 13:26:49 UTC ---
Here's a rubbishy mock up misusing <fieldset> and an existing CSS class, but it
makes it much easier to notice

http://www.kayari.plus.com/gcc/enter_bug.cgi-1.html

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[LpSolit at netscape dot net]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

--- Comment #4 from Frédéric Buclin <LpSolit at netscape dot net> 2012-10-18 13:37:50 UTC ---
If everybody is happy with this mockup, I can push it live later today. Does it
need any formal approval?

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[redi at gcc dot gnu.org]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

--- Comment #5 from Jonathan Wakely <redi at gcc dot gnu.org> 2012-10-18 13:48:34 UTC ---
I'm certainly not able to approve the change, it'll need some kind of 
agreement from the lead maintainers, which is why I raised it on the mailing
list.  I don't know if anyone except me and you has bothered to look at it yet
:)

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[redi at gcc dot gnu.org]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

--- Comment #6 from Jonathan Wakely <redi at gcc dot gnu.org> 2012-10-23 10:28:43 UTC ---
Well the only global maintainer who commented was in favour of it, so let's try
the change.

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[redi at gcc dot gnu.org]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

--- Comment #7 from Jonathan Wakely <redi at gcc dot gnu.org> 2012-10-26 15:20:54 UTC ---
This is why we need it:
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-bugs/2012-10/msg02459.html

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

--- Comment #8 from Andrew Pinski <pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org> 2012-10-26 15:25:30 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #7)
> This is why we need it:
> http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-bugs/2012-10/msg02459.html

I agree we need it but I don't think the above one is a good example as the
summary for that bug is "please submit full bug report" :).

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[LpSolit at netscape dot net]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

Frédéric Buclin <LpSolit at netscape dot net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |NEW
   Last reconfirmed|                            |2012-10-26
     Ever Confirmed|0                           |1

--- Comment #9 from Frédéric Buclin <LpSolit at netscape dot net> 2012-10-26 15:27:59 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> I agree we need it but I don't think the above one is a good example as the
> summary for that bug is "please submit full bug report" :).

Close that bug as invalid. I personally don't hesitate to kill such bugs when
doing triage in bugzilla.mozilla.org.

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[ian at airs dot com]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

Ian Lance Taylor <ian at airs dot com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |ian at airs dot com

--- Comment #10 from Ian Lance Taylor <ian at airs dot com> 2012-10-26 15:47:21 UTC ---
I'm in favor of this change and I'll approve it but I don't know how to
actually do it.

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[LpSolit at netscape dot net]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

Frédéric Buclin <LpSolit at netscape dot net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |ASSIGNED
         AssignedTo|unassigned at gcc dot       |LpSolit at netscape dot net
                   |gnu.org                     |

--- Comment #11 from Frédéric Buclin <LpSolit at netscape dot net> 2012-10-26 16:03:54 UTC ---
Instead of a fieldset, I simply put a solid border. Also, I didn't reuse the
comment class but hardcoded the style for this block. Are you happy with the
color, or do you want something else?

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[LpSolit at netscape dot net]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

Frédéric Buclin <LpSolit at netscape dot net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                URL|                            |http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla
                   |                            |/enter_bug.cgi?product=gcc

--- Comment #12 from Frédéric Buclin <LpSolit at netscape dot net> 2012-10-26 16:06:33 UTC ---
Click the URL link above to see how it looks like. The change has already been
applied to GCC Bugzilla.

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

--- Comment #13 from Andrew Pinski <pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org> 2012-10-26 16:48:05 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #12)
> Click the URL link above to see how it looks like. The change has already been
> applied to GCC Bugzilla.

Is there any way to make the text red rather than yellowish?  I am having a
hard time to focus on the text.

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[redi at gcc dot gnu.org]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

--- Comment #14 from Jonathan Wakely <redi at gcc dot gnu.org> 2012-10-26 16:52:40 UTC ---
That looks great to me (I was just being lazy reusing the existing FIELDSET
style)

Thanks for doing this!

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[LpSolit at netscape dot net]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

Frédéric Buclin <LpSolit at netscape dot net> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|ASSIGNED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED

--- Comment #15 from Frédéric Buclin <LpSolit at netscape dot net> 2012-10-26 16:57:59 UTC ---
The text is now a bit more reddish. Fixed!

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[ian at airs dot com]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

--- Comment #16 from Ian Lance Taylor <ian at airs dot com> 2012-10-27 00:55:14 UTC ---
Thanks!

[Bug web/54973] [bugzilla] make "Before reporting a bug" notice more prominent

[pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org]

http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54973

--- Comment #17 from Andrew Pinski <pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org> 2012-10-27 00:57:11 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #15)
> The text is now a bit more reddish. Fixed!

Thanks that is much better and thanks again for adding this text.