Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

[Dipanjan Das]

Solaris 10 shipped with an old gcc, probably version 3.7.2, under
/usr/sfw/bin. My project required to be built by gcc >=4.3 to be
compiled successfully. Therefore, I installed a pre-compiled gcc 3.4.6
from [sunfreeware.com|sunfreeware.com] and successfully compiled
latest version (2.23.1) of GNU binutils. Also I could successfully
build GMP, MPC, MPFR libraries required as a pre-requisite to compile
gcc. But, I get the error message as follows: (Last few lines of
several KBs of 'make' log)

/home/Dip/Workspace/gcc-build/./gcc/xgcc
-B/home/Dip/Workspace/gcc-build/./gcc/
-B/usr/local/sparc-sun-solaris2.10/bin/
-B/usr/local/sparc-sun-solaris2.10/lib/ -isystem
/usr/local/sparc-sun-solaris2.10/include -isystem
/usr/local/sparc-sun-solaris2.10/sys-include -g -O2 -m64 -O2 -g -O2
-DIN_GCC -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wstrict-prototypes
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition -isystem ./include -fPIC
-g -DIN_LIBGCC2 -fbuilding-libgcc -fno-stack-protector -fPIC -I. -I.
-I../../.././gcc -I../../../../gcc-4.7.2/libgcc
-I../../../../gcc-4.7.2/libgcc/. -I../../../../gcc-4.7.2/libgcc/../gcc
-I../../../../gcc-4.7.2/libgcc/../include -DHAVE_CC_TLS -o _ctors.o
-MT _ctors.o -MD -MP -MF _ctors.dep -DL_ctors -c
../../../../gcc-4.7.2/libgcc/libgcc2.c -fvisibility=hidden
-DHIDE_EXPORTS
/home/Dip/Workspace/gcc-build/./gcc/xgcc
-B/home/Dip/Workspace/gcc-build/./gcc/
-B/usr/local/sparc-sun-solaris2.10/bin/
-B/usr/local/sparc-sun-solaris2.10/lib/ -isystem
/usr/local/sparc-sun-solaris2.10/include -isystem
/usr/local/sparc-sun-solaris2.10/sys-include -g -O2 -m64 -O2 -g -O2
-DIN_GCC -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wcast-qual -Wstrict-prototypes
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition -isystem ./include -fPIC
-g -DIN_LIBGCC2 -fbuilding-libgcc -fno-stack-protector -fPIC -I. -I.
-I../../.././gcc -I../../../../gcc-4.7.2/libgcc
-I../../../../gcc-4.7.2/libgcc/. -I../../../../gcc-4.7.2/libgcc/../gcc
-I../../../../gcc-4.7.2/libgcc/../include -DHAVE_CC_TLS -o _ffssi2.o
-MT _ffssi2.o -MD -MP -MF _ffssi2.dep -DL_ffssi2 -c
../../../../gcc-4.7.2/libgcc/libgcc2.c -fvisibility=hidden
-DHIDE_EXPORTS
/var/tmp//ccT2zOsO.s: Assembler messages:
/var/tmp//ccT2zOsO.s:636: Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.group'
*make[5]: *** [_ffssi2.o] Error 1*
make[5]: Leaving directory
`/home/Dip/Workspace/gcc-build/sparc-sun-solaris2.10/sparcv9/libgcc'
*make[4]: *** [multi-do] Error 1*
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/home/Dip/Workspace/gcc-build/sparc-sun-solaris2.10/libgcc'
*make[3]: *** [all-multi] Error 2*
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/home/Dip/Workspace/gcc-build/sparc-sun-solaris2.10/libgcc'
*make[2]: *** [all-stage1-target-libgcc] Error 2*
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/Dip/Workspace/gcc-build'
*make[1]: *** [stage1-bubble] Error 2*
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/Dip/Workspace/gcc-build'
*make: *** [all] Error 2*

Does that ring any bell? Has anyone been able to build gcc >=4.3 from
source under Solaris 10 successfully? Please suggest. My project
urgently needs it, but all the activities are stalled.

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Thanks & Regards,

Dipanjan

Re: Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

[Dennis Clarke]

This is coming up on this list over and over. 

Please see http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2012-12/msg00015.html

Dennis 

ps: the SunFreeware project has gone commercial and the GCC packages are 
       getting crusty. Follow the instructions in the message above and you will
        be fine.

Re: Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

[Holmes.Sherlock]

Dennis Clarke-2 wrote
> This is coming up on this list over and over. 
> 
> Please see http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2012-12/msg00015.html

I'll give a try tomorrow and report back.



Dennis Clarke-2 wrote
> ps: the SunFreeware project has gone commercial and the GCC packages are 
>        getting crusty. Follow the instructions in the message above and
> you will
>         be fine.

I think the actual SunFreeware project is still free and non-commercial
while its UNIX based fork is commercial from the very beginning. Isn't it?




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Re: Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

[Holmes.Sherlock]

Thanks *Dennis* for your assistance. However, I have been able to compile gcc
4.7.2 on Solaris 10 (SPARC) without your gcc 4.5.1 pre-compiled binary
package. Here is the precise steps I follwed in case someone else needs it
later:

1. Installed gcc 3.4.6 pre-compile binary from  http://sunfreeware.com/
<http://sunfreeware.com/>   which got installed /usr/local/bin/
2. Installed MPFR library under /usr/local: *./configure
--prefix=/usr/local, make && make install*
3. Installed MPC library under /usr/local: *./configure --prefix=/usr/local,
make && make install*
4. Installed GMP library under /usr/local: *./configure --prefix=/usr/local,
make && make install*
5. Installed binutils-2.23.1 under /usr/local: *./configure
--prefix=/usr/local, make && make install*
6. Set the environment variable to force gcc make process to use GNU as:
AS=/usr/local/bin/as
7. Set the environment variable to force gcc make process to use GNU ld:
AS=/usr/local/bin/ld
8. Started gcc build: *./configure --prefix=/usr/local, make && make
install*

The build process ran over 8 hours (I don't know exactly how much time it
tiik as I left the office after 8 hours and found itself ready the next
morning). I did the same process twice on the same machine and it got built
successfully both the times.

P.S. Now I want to package my gcc 4.7.2 installation in phgadd format so
that if anybody else needs it, it can be installed without such pain. Will
you please help me in this regard?




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Re: Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

[Kai Ruottu]

16.12.2012 2:31, Holmes.Sherlock kirjoitti:
> Thanks *Dennis* for your assistance. However, I have been able to compile gcc
> 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 (SPARC) without your gcc 4.5.1 pre-compiled binary
> package. Here is the precise steps I follwed in case someone else needs it
> later:
>
> 1. Installed gcc 3.4.6 pre-compile binary from  http://sunfreeware.com/
> <http://sunfreeware.com/>   which got installed /usr/local/bin/
> 2. Installed MPFR library under /usr/local: *./configure
> --prefix=/usr/local, make && make install*
> 3. Installed MPC library under /usr/local: *./configure --prefix=/usr/local,
> make && make install*
> 4. Installed GMP library under /usr/local: *./configure --prefix=/usr/local,
> make && make install*
> 5. Installed binutils-2.23.1 under /usr/local: *./configure
> --prefix=/usr/local, make && make install*
> 6. Set the environment variable to force gcc make process to use GNU as:
> AS=/usr/local/bin/as
> 7. Set the environment variable to force gcc make process to use GNU ld:
> AS=/usr/local/bin/ld
> 8. Started gcc build: *./configure --prefix=/usr/local, make && make
> install*
>
> The build process ran over 8 hours (I don't know exactly how much time it
> tiik as I left the office after 8 hours and found itself ready the next
> morning). I did the same process twice on the same machine and it got built
> successfully both the times.

I built gcc-4.7.2 for sparc-solaris2.10 and i686-solaris2.10 targets on 
my laptop with
AMD Athlon64x2 TK-55 1.8 GHz and CentOS 6.3 Linux and it took about 15 
minutes
for each. The GNU Linux binutils 2.23.51.0.x was used for 'as' and 'ld' 
and such and
building them took about 5  minutes for each 
(sparc&sparc64/i686&x86_64).  No
problems at all with these.  Meaning during the builds...

But  what is the problem with using only the GNU binutils always? With 
cross GCCs
using GNU binutils is the only possibility, with native GCCs one can use 
also the native
Sun 'as', 'ld' and so on, but if the GNU ones really work, why one would 
use different
components on the native platform?

Generally I don't understand why anyone would use a platform where compiling
something takes over 8 hours as a development/build environment and not only
as a runtime platform...

Re: Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

[Holmes.Sherlock]

Kai Ruottu-3 wrote
> I built gcc-4.7.2 for sparc-solaris2.10 and i686-solaris2.10 targets on my
> laptop with AMD Athlon64x2 TK-55 1.8 GHz and CentOS 6.3 Linux and it took
> about 15  minutes for each. 

It means you have set up a cross compiler, isn't it?



Kai Ruottu-3 wrote
> But  what is the problem with using only the GNU binutils always? With
> cross GCCs using GNU binutils is the only possibility, with native GCCs
> one can use also the nativeSun 'as', 'ld' and so on, but if the GNU ones
> really work, why one would 
> use different components on the native platform?

As I've already told, I have used GNU LD and GNU AS from binutils-2.23.1
while building gcc-4.7.2 natively on Solaris 10/SPARC.




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Re: Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

[Dennis Clarke]

<snip>
> 
> As I've already told, I have used GNU LD and GNU AS from binutils-2.23.1
> while building gcc-4.7.2 natively on Solaris 10/SPARC.

Do you have a posted result set ? 

I was unable to get a *reasonable* result on Solaris 10 sparc and the very 
best that I could get was this : 

    http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-testresults/2012-11/msg01367.html

Not a very satisfactory result. 

Were you able to get a better result?  What compiler did you bootstrap with?
What linker and assembler and any other tools from outside the commercial
Solaris tools ? 

Dennis Clarke 

Re: Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

[Holmes.Sherlock]

Dennis Clarke-2 wrote
> Do you have a posted result set ? 

No, not yet.


Dennis Clarke-2 wrote
> I was unable to get a *reasonable* result on Solaris 10 sparc and the very 
> best that I could get was this : 
> 
>     http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-testresults/2012-11/msg01367.html
> 
> Not a very satisfactory result. 

Is it the version packaged by you for download?


Dennis Clarke-2 wrote
> Were you able to get a better result? 

I didn't run a testsuite. I compiled my project codebase only, which is
sufficiently large and it produced expected result.


Dennis Clarke-2 wrote
> What compiler did you bootstrap with?

gcc 3.4.6 pre-compiled package by sunfreeware.


Dennis Clarke-2 wrote
> What linker and assembler 

GNU AS 2.23.1 and GNU LD 2.23.1, from latest binutils-2.23.1


Dennis Clarke-2 wrote
> ...any other tools from outside the commercial
> Solaris tools ? 

No




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Re: Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

[Dennis Clarke]

> Thanks *Dennis* for your assistance. However, I have been able to 
> compile gcc
> 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 (SPARC) without your gcc 4.5.1 pre-compiled binary
> package. Here is the precise steps I follwed in case someone else 
> needs it
> later:
> 
> 1. Installed gcc 3.4.6 pre-compile binary from  http://sunfreeware.com/
> <   which got installed /usr/local/bin/
> 2. Installed MPFR library under /usr/local: *./configure
> --prefix=/usr/local, make && make install*
> 3. Installed MPC library under /usr/local: *./configure --prefix=/usr/local,
> make && make install*
> 4. Installed GMP library under /usr/local: *./configure --prefix=/usr/local,
> make && make install*
> 5. Installed binutils-2.23.1 under /usr/local: *./configure
> --prefix=/usr/local, make && make install*
> 6. Set the environment variable to force gcc make process to use GNU as:
> AS=/usr/local/bin/as
> 7. Set the environment variable to force gcc make process to use GNU ld:
> AS=/usr/local/bin/ld
> 8. Started gcc build: *./configure --prefix=/usr/local, make && make
> install*
> 
> The build process ran over 8 hours (I don't know exactly how much time 
> it
> tiik as I left the office after 8 hours and found itself ready the next
> morning). I did the same process twice on the same machine and it got 
> built
> successfully both the times.

Success is measured via the testsuite so I would really like to know what sort of 
results you managed.  Please. 

> 
> P.S. Now I want to package my gcc 4.7.2 installation in phgadd format 
> so that if anybody else needs it, it can be installed without such pain. 
> Will you please help me in this regard?

I have extensive experience with this however I won't package nor aid in
the distribution of a thing which is untested. I have GCC 4.7.2 built over and 
over on Solaris and no way would I release them to the unsuspecting public 
without a reasonable public testsuite. 

Dennis 

Re: Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

[Holmes.Sherlock]

Dennis Clarke-2 wrote
> Success is measured via the testsuite so I would really like to know what
> sort of 
> results you managed.  Please. 

Do you mean that even if it gets compiled and producing expected output for
a sufficiently large code, it MAY fail to produce correct code all the time?
Bean with my ignorance, I am new to this.


Dennis Clarke-2 wrote
> I have extensive experience with this ...

I know that you have, I already confirmed. :)


Dennis Clarke-2 wrote
> ...however I won't package nor aid in the distribution of a thing which is
> untested. 

If running through testsuite is the acid test of certification, then I'd
also not want to package and release unless thoroughly tested. Still I have
the build directory lying on my system. I haven't run a gcc testsuite
earlier. Can you please let me know how to run a testsuite and post the
result back? Is it downloadable from somewhere? How to run it? Apart from
console log, does it produce any other log which I can post back?




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Re: Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

[Dennis Clarke]

> If running through testsuite is the acid test of certification, then I'd
> also not want to package and release unless thoroughly tested. Still I 
> have
> the build directory lying on my system. I haven't run a gcc testsuite
> earlier. Can you please let me know how to run a testsuite and post the
> result back? Is it downloadable from somewhere? How to run it? Apart from
> console log, does it produce any other log which I can post back?
> 

Pretty well documented here : 

    http://gcc.gnu.org/install/test.html

Essentially, and this is a belief in the absence of proof, software should pass
some sort of test harness before we trust it at any level. Even if a software
component may pass its own test suite with glorious flying colors we should
still distrust it and keep a watchful eye upon it.  Having said that, we know
as a fact that really exceptional software ( ISC Bind for example ) does exist
and it does pass a rigorous software test suite and yet in spite of this we 
still see horrendous bugs discovered that reveal weaknesses : 

http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2012-1667

Does this mean that we should not trust ISC Bind to run the entire name
server infrastructure of the planet?  In no way would I agree with such
a stance.  Furthermore should we truct a compiler that can not pass its
own testsuite? Well no, we should not. Even a perfect compiler can be 
used to cronstruct a security violation.  There is a famouse lecture on
this by Ken Thompson in his 1983 Turing Award speech named "Reflections
on Trusting Trust" which revealed how a virtually invisible back door security
hole could be inserted into a C compiler.  Please look that one up. 

What I am saying is that if you buy a car there should be some paper
somewhere that says you can trust it in at least some way to not blow
up nor take a sudden lurch to the left and kill people. We have safety 
standards ( these days ) to enforece this.  In the same way I feel strongly
that a critical piece of software used worldwide to produce other software
pieces should come with a statement of compliance to some tests. 

In short, don't release a compiler that doesn't have a publicly posted test
report somewhere. It bothers me to no end that I can not find any such 
piece of paper from Red Hat nor Oracle to tell me that their GCC compiler
in their distribution does anything correctly. God forbid we even glance
at Oracle Studio 12 ( which was Sun Studio which was Forte Studio ..)
as closed source stuff rarely comes with anything but the words "trust us".

Dennis 

ps: I recently posted changes to nearly every Makefile.am in the flex project
to get it to pass all but two of its own tests and yet still I trust flex because 
I know where it fails and why.  Sometimes you just have to look at the source.

Re: Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

[Holmes.Sherlock]

Dennis Clarke-2 wrote
> Pretty well documented here : 
> 
>     http://gcc.gnu.org/install/test.html

Yes, I just google few minutes back and hit the same page. I'll run the
suite and post it back. I myself even eager to know what I have produced
after hours of rigorous compilation and bootstrapping. Since, the system is
my office system, it may take some time. But, I'll definitely revert back.

Thank you again for the additional information you have provided. I'll check
out Thompson's lecture.




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Re: Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

[Tom Christensen]

On 12/16/2012 01:31 AM, Holmes.Sherlock wrote:
>
> P.S. Now I want to package my gcc 4.7.2 installation in phgadd format so
> that if anybody else needs it, it can be installed without such pain.
>
Painfree installation of gcc 4.7.2 is already possible, just install it 
from http://opencsw.org (it's in the 'unstable' branch).

-tgc

Re: Installing gcc 4.7.2 on Solaris 10 - SPARC platform

[Dennis Clarke]

> On 12/16/2012 01:31 AM, Holmes.Sherlock wrote:
> >
> > P.S. Now I want to package my gcc 4.7.2 installation in phgadd 
> format so
> > that if anybody else needs it, it can be installed without such pain.
> >
> Painfree installation of gcc 4.7.2 is already possible, just install 
> it 
> from http://opencsw.org (it's in the 'unstable' branch).

yep .. problem solved. I'm still surprised that those poor blokes have not
gotten the lawyers from Oracle at them yet .. everyone else did.  

dc