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From: Jonny Grant <jg@jguk.org>
To: Jonathan Wakely <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>, Xi Ruoyao <xry111@xry111.site>
Cc: gcc-help <gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: std::string add nullptr attribute
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 11:30:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <163945d9-6c24-d4e1-7029-980b988bd634@jguk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH6eHdTZvEr4z7XRAEAVLyvUzR3+J08gKZSqYzVztNb+NZ5-yg@mail.gmail.com>



On 20/02/2023 10:37, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 at 10:26, Xi Ruoyao <xry111@xry111.site> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 2023-02-19 at 21:33 +0000, Jonny Grant wrote:
>>
>>> I noticed -Wanalyzer-null-dereference reports at build time a
>>> dereference. Also works if a function parameter. I wondered why
>>> std::string isn't detected by this static analyser option.
>>
>> Because the analyzer does not know the C++ standard disallows to use
>> NULL here.  It just analyzes the code.  The code in libstdc++ reads:
>>
>>       basic_string(const _CharT* __s, const _Alloc& __a = _Alloc())
>>       : _M_dataplus(_M_local_data(), __a)
>>       {
>>         // NB: Not required, but considered best practice.
>>         if (__s == 0)
>>           std::__throw_logic_error(__N("basic_string: "
>>                                        "construction from null is not valid"));
>>         const _CharT* __end = __s + traits_type::length(__s);
>>         _M_construct(__s, __end, forward_iterator_tag());
>>       }
>>
>> As you can see yourself, though the standard implies using NULL here is
>> a UB, libstdc++ does not really code a UB here.  So the analyzer will
>> consider the code absolutely valid.
> 
> Right, it's defined behaviour in libstdc++, as an extension.
> 
>>
>> Note that throwing a C++ exception is not a programming error.  It's
>> perfectly legal to catch the exception elsewhere.  It's also perfectly
>> legal not to catch it and treat it as an abort() (calling abort is also
>> not a programming error).
>>
>>
>>> It's not pretty, but this wrapper catches NULL passed at compile time:
>>>
>>> std::string make_std_string(const char * const str)
>>> {
>>>     // This line ensures: warning: dereference of NULL '0' [CWE-476]
>>> [-Wanalyzer-null-dereference]
>>>     char b = *str;
>>
>> You are invoking an undefined behavior here if str is NULL, so it's
>> essentially same as using a nonnull attribute for make_std_string.
> 
> And turned defined behaviour back into UB. The warning isn't reliable
> (only if the compiler can see the point is null, which isn't the case
> without optimization, or if the pointer comes from some non-inline
> function), the exception is. You're trading guaranteed exception for a
> not guaranteed warning and unbounded misoptimization due to undefined
> behaviour.
> 
> Even if this was a robust solution, is it really a problem that needs
> to be solved?

Feels useful to get build warnings if compiler knows nullptr is going to be dereferenced, as clang does.

Personally I feel runtime should equally handle possible nullptr by constructing strings in a try catch block so any exceptions are handled or logged at least...

Personally I would be pleased if GCC had a warning I could enable to report any logic_error exceptions it knew would execute.

Regards, Jonny

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-20 11:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-09 13:26 Jonny Grant
2023-02-09 14:56 ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-02-09 16:30   ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-02-09 17:52     ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-02-10 21:30       ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-10 22:03         ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-02-10 22:38           ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-11  0:32             ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-02-13 22:02               ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-19 20:43               ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-19 21:33                 ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-20 10:26                   ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-02-20 10:37                     ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-02-20 10:54                       ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-02-20 11:10                         ` Gabriel Ravier
2023-02-20 11:18                           ` Marc Glisse
2023-02-20 11:28                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-02-20 12:00                               ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-20 14:50                               ` Gabriel Ravier
2023-02-20 11:44                             ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-21 15:02                             ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-20 11:38                           ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-20 11:30                       ` Jonny Grant [this message]
2023-02-20 12:59                         ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-02-20 13:44                           ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-02-20 19:21                             ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-20 19:35                               ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-02-20 19:39                                 ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-22 20:27                                 ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-21 15:04                           ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-21 22:48                           ` Jonny Grant
2023-03-04 15:00                           ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-20 11:25                     ` Jonny Grant
2023-03-12 22:10       ` Jonny Grant
2023-03-13 10:10         ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-03-13 19:55           ` Jonny Grant

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