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From: "R. Diez" <rdiezmail-gcc@yahoo.de>
To: "kai.ruottu@wippies.com" <kai.ruottu@wippies.com>
Cc: "gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Specifying where Binutils is and what it is called
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 09:52:58 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2007965762.1537196.1587376378163@mail.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2007965762.1537196.1587376378163.ref@mail.yahoo.com>

> Maybe in the distant past of GCC there were some problems
> with this "combined build of GCC and newlib" but someone
> suggesting a separate build somewhere nowadays is really weird.

It's not that weird. Many people are using that method:

1) The OpenWrt build system does.

2) The ArchWiki describes that way too:
   https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cross-compiling_tools_package_guidelines
   Look for "stage 1" in that page.

3) crosstool-NG is specifically designed to build cross-compilers, and uses the same method:

   https://crosstool-ng.github.io/docs/toolchain-construction/
   Look for "core pass 1" in that page.


> [...]
> https://docs.rtems.org/releases/4.5.1-pre3/rtemsdoc/html/started/started00072.html

I would not trust the instructions on that page anymore. It's way too old.


> "To bring in newlib and libgloss, a user could link the newlib and
> libgloss subdirectories of the newlib source tree into the src tree of gcc."
> In :
> https://sourceware.org/newlib/faq.html

I would not trust the Newlib documentation very much. Building Newlib for a Linux system (as opposed to the usual embedded system) was broken for years, and it may still be. I would say the project is short on developers.

I did find some information in GCC's own Wiki:

https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/Building_Cross_Toolchains_with_gcc

But then it says "Create a tree that consists of all of the files from the GCC and binutils/gdb/newlib source trees (including several simulators in src/sim), with the GCC files overriding the binutils/gdb/newlib files when there's a conflict." Overwriting files like that doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

I have invested many hours of work to get a working, tailor-made cross-compiler for my embedded projects. I would even say "wasted a lot of time". I hope you understand that, before investing yet more work, I would like to see some modern, working example (makefile or script) first on how to build a GCC cross-compiler with Newlib in a single step.

Regards,
  rdiez

       reply	other threads:[~2020-04-20  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2020-04-20  9:52 ` R. Diez [this message]
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2020-04-22 12:24 ` R. Diez
2020-04-23  8:24   ` Christer Solskogen
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2020-04-20  8:27 ` R. Diez
2020-04-20  8:47   ` Jonathan Wakely
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2020-04-19 15:14 ` R. Diez
2020-04-19 18:49   ` Jonathan Wakely
2020-04-20  5:25     ` Kai Ruottu
2020-04-20  5:32       ` Kai Ruottu
2020-04-20 18:55   ` Jim Wilson

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