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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: mark_at_yahoo <markrubn@yahoo.com>
Cc: gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: question about knowing when optimization options are used
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 16:24:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200318212404.GM22482@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <120d7b44-50b6-1868-18e5-27cedd12439a@yahoo.com>

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 10:44:09AM -0700, mark_at_yahoo via Gcc-help wrote:
> On 3/16/20 4:34 PM, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> >You can enable the *flags*, sure, but with -O0 those flags do not do
> >anything.  Exactly as the text above says?  The "even if" part.

> Sorry to question this, but my experience has been otherwise.

From the manual again:
  Most optimizations are completely disabled at '-O0' or if an '-O' level
  is not set on the command line, even if individual optimization flags
  are specified.  Similarly, '-Og' suppresses many optimization passes.

> I haven't 
> tried it in a while (probably last did on an older release) but at least 
> with gcc-arm, doing:
> 
>     -O0 \
>     -fbranch-count-reg \
>     -fcombine-stack-adjustments \
>     -fcompare-elim \
>     -fcprop-registers \
>     <long list of other flags deleted>
> 
> *did* do something different than just "-O0".

It might be interesting to see which compiler flag(s) you see any
differences with.

> 2) My code includes header files with literally thousands (no 
> exaggeration) of "static const int ..."s
> 3) The code (intentionally) uses only a handful of the consts
> 4) If compiled "-O1", no memory is allocated for the thousands of consts 
> (not even the few that are used)
> 5) If compiled "-O0" memory is allocated for each const -- far more 
> memory than is available
> 6) "-O0" executables are much easier to debug at the machine instruction 
> level (sometimes necessary on microcontrollers)
> 
> Can anyone suggest a minimal set of "-f<options>"s to add  to -O0 which 
> will do what I want, i.e. no code optimizations, but also no memory 
> allocated for the consts?

Try -Og instead?  It is mostly like -O1, but almost all debugging should
work fine with it (as the option name itself suggests :-) )


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-18 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-16 23:14 Shrader, David Lee
2020-03-16 23:34 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-16 23:55   ` [EXTERNAL] " Shrader, David Lee
2020-03-17  0:36     ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-17  1:39       ` Shrader, David Lee
2020-03-17  1:35     ` Jeffrey Walton
2020-03-17  1:44       ` Shrader, David Lee
2020-03-17  2:58         ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-17 12:22   ` Richard Sandiford
2020-03-18 20:15     ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-18 17:44   ` mark_at_yahoo
2020-03-18 21:24     ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2020-03-19 14:17   ` Jonathan Wakely

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