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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Paul Smith <paul@mad-scientist.net>
Cc: Fiodar Stryzhniou <fedor_qd@mail.ru>, gcc-help <gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Out of memory while building GCC 12.1.0
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:15:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220610171540.GT25951@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fd0a20e91b4d25ce95f5f18ca21c3302cdf55e96.camel@mad-scientist.net>

On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 01:09:30PM -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-06-10 at 10:56 -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > The load average is only computed every 5s, so if you have a faster
> > machine it can bring your system to its knees in that time already,
> > by starting thousands of tasks.
> 
> This is no longer true as of GNU make 3.81 (released in 2006).  GNU
> make artificially adjusts the load average based on the number of jobs
> started in the last second, to avoid this issue.

I have seen it happen with GNU make 3.82.  The newer heuristic is
better, sure, but it is still a heuristic based on flawed data, so it
can never be perfectly good.

> In the next release of GNU make a different method, based on /proc, is
> used for Linux specifically which should result in even better behavior
> there.

Great to hear that!  So in a year or ten people can use this safely :-)


Segher

      reply	other threads:[~2022-06-10 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-10 11:55 Fiodar Stryzhniou
2022-06-10 12:14 ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-06-10 12:18   ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-06-10 12:29     ` Fiodar Stryzhniou
2022-06-10 12:42       ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-06-10 15:06         ` Fiodar Stryzhniou
2022-06-10 14:42       ` Paul Smith
2022-06-10 15:56         ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-06-10 17:04           ` Fiodar Stryzhniou
2022-06-10 17:09           ` Paul Smith
2022-06-10 17:15             ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]

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