Re: "missing files"

Re: "missing files"

[Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci]

At 18.28 21/11/01 (GMT +0000), J P wrote:
>has anyone else dealt with files that seem to have inappriopriately set
>pathnames? i mena that the files are called missing while they are
>resident inthe oject directory instead of the source directory, aside
>fromt hat everything is the same.


for example ?

fwyzard

Re: "missing files"

[Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci]

>hal.net.brandeis.edu 41: ld -V
>92453-07 linker command s800.sgs ld PA64 B.11.18 REL 000922
>ld: 92453-07 linker linker ld B.11.18 000922
>ld: Usage:  ld [options] [flags] files
>hal.net.brandeis.edu 42:
>
>for some reason i get hte feeling that means it's still looking at the HP 
>ones. if i'm right, then how do i switch over to the gnubinutils?
>(gnubinutils were made into the directory "gnubinutils-2.11.2" which has 
>path "/software/gnubinutils-2.11.2")

The for sure don't look like GNU binutils (which ld say something like
GNU ld version 2.11.90.0.8 (with BFD 2.11.90.0.8)

I'm not sure anout binutils and make, but if they behave like gcc yuo 
should have made a "make install" after "make".
If so, add the directory where you installed those BEFORE the directory 
where the HP are in your PATH and configure gcc with
.../configure ... -with-gnu-as -with-gnu-ld

Or, if you just want to use the GNU binutils for compiling gcc, you can 
configure it with
.../configure ... -with-gnu-as="full path to gnu as"/as -with-gnu-ld="full 
path to wgnu ld"/ld


>if i'm right and those aren't the gnubinutils, then after i set them up, 
>since i've gone through about a dozen tries with the "gmake bootstrap" 
>command, should i simply reconfigure, or should i remove the current 
>object directory and start over so that i can make complete use of the gnu 
>binutils instead of partial use? one of the things i came across doing 
>this said that the hp make corrupts a lot of the gnu things, which is why 
>it said not only to use gmake, but preferably one that was made ignoring 
>any resident make on an hpux machine.

I'm not sure if deleting it all is necessary - maybe "make clean" is enough 
- but it sure won't harm. So, my advice is, use a new direcotry and 
configure/make from scratch.

HTH


>thanx for all the help so far.

You're welcome :-)
fwyzard

Re: "missing files"

[J P]

>From: Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci <fwyzard@inwind.it>
>To: "J P" <buttermaker@hotmail.com>,gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org
>Subject: Re: "missing files"
>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:48:06 +0100
>
>At 17.21 28/11/01 (GMT +0000), you wrote:
>>that is what i have done. thank you for trying though.
>>i have successfully ported the latest gnu binutils and gmake. so i know it
>>has them to use. i followed the 11.00 instructions and it worked fine. if
>>someone from gnu is watching they should add that to the installs instead
>>of saying that it has never been tried. in order to avoid corruption witht
>>he make, i used the method for those that don't have a make.
>>
>>my first thought is that something was wrong with one of those, but the
>>gmake i had to put in the path, and it works once i put it there.
>>
>>unless the gnu binutils installed incorrectly and it's using the hp
>>inherent ones. could that be it? if so, how do i check that the
>>gnubinutils are installed and pointed to the dir i installed them to from
>>where they need pointers? i thought the readme said it places them.
>
>I don't think this could be a binutils problem, as cpp is a part of gcc.
>Anyway, t osee if the binutils your are using are one you installed, you
>could make
>ld -V
>and see what the answer is.

hal.net.brandeis.edu 41: ld -V
92453-07 linker command s800.sgs ld PA64 B.11.18 REL 000922
ld: 92453-07 linker linker ld B.11.18 000922
ld: Usage:  ld [options] [flags] files
hal.net.brandeis.edu 42:

for some reason i get hte feeling that means it's still looking at the HP 
ones. if i'm right, then how do i switch over to the gnubinutils?
(gnubinutils were made into the directory "gnubinutils-2.11.2" which has 
path "/software/gnubinutils-2.11.2")

>GNU ld should tell what version it is along with the supporte targets it
>has been built for.
>
>I was wondering - did you installed gmake and the binutils befor
>configuring gcc, right ?

yeah, i did the gmake, then configured binutils so that i could use gmake to 
make them, then confired (and am no trying to make) the gcc.

>You might want to re-configure (in the same place, with the same options)
>just to grab the output. I should mention what ersion of the various tools
>will be used to build gcc.
>
>fwyzard
>
>

if i'm right and those aren't the gnubinutils, then after i set them up, 
since i've gone through about a dozen tries with the "gmake bootstrap" 
command, should i simply reconfigure, or should i remove the current object 
directory and start over so that i can make complete use of the gnu binutils 
instead of partial use? one of the things i came across doing this said that 
the hp make corrupts a lot of the gnu things, which is why it said not only 
to use gmake, but preferably one that was made ignoring any resident make on 
an hpux machine.

thanx for all the help so far.

-Josh

*******************
Joh Perlmutter
NOC "intern"
Brandeis University

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Re: "missing files"

[Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci]

At 17.21 28/11/01 (GMT +0000), you wrote:
>that is what i have done. thank you for trying though.
>i have successfully ported the latest gnu binutils and gmake. so i know it 
>has them to use. i followed the 11.00 instructions and it worked fine. if 
>someone from gnu is watching they should add that to the installs instead 
>of saying that it has never been tried. in order to avoid corruption witht 
>he make, i used the method for those that don't have a make.
>
>my first thought is that something was wrong with one of those, but the 
>gmake i had to put in the path, and it works once i put it there.
>
>unless the gnu binutils installed incorrectly and it's using the hp 
>inherent ones. could that be it? if so, how do i check that the 
>gnubinutils are installed and pointed to the dir i installed them to from 
>where they need pointers? i thought the readme said it places them.

I don't think this could be a binutils problem, as cpp is a part of gcc.
Anyway, t osee if the binutils your are using are one you installed, you 
could make
ld -V
and see what the answer is.
GNU ld should tell what version it is along with the supporte targets it 
has been built for.

I was wondering - did you installed gmake and the binutils befor 
configuring gcc, right ?
You might want to re-configure (in the same place, with the same options) 
just to grab the output. I should mention what ersion of the various tools 
will be used to build gcc.

fwyzard

Re: "missing files"

[J P]

that is what i have done. thank you for trying though.
i have successfully ported the latest gnu binutils and gmake. so i know it 
has them to use. i followed the 11.00 instructions and it worked fine. if 
someone from gnu is watching they should add that to the installs instead of 
saying that it has never been tried. in order to avoid corruption witht he 
make, i used the method for those that don't have a make.

my first thought is that something was wrong with one of those, but the 
gmake i had to put in the path, and it works once i put it there.

unless the gnu binutils installed incorrectly and it's using the hp inherent 
ones. could that be it? if so, how do i check that the gnubinutils are 
installed and pointed to the dir i installed them to from where they need 
pointers? i thought the readme said it places them.

*******************
Joh Perlmutter
NOC "intern"
Brandeis University



>From: Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci <fwyzard@inwind.it>
>To: "J P" <buttermaker@hotmail.com>,
>Subject: Re: "missing files"
>Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:02:39 +0100
>
>
>>
>>hal.net.brandeis.edu 48: ../make-3.79.1/make bootstrap >makeboot.log
>>cpp: "fixlib.h", line 30: error 4036: Can't open include file 'config.h'.
>>
>>#include "auto-host.h"
>>#include "ansidecl.h"
>>#include "config.h"
>>#include "system.h"
>>
>>that line from the file calling config.h shows that it's looking for it in
>>/software/gcc-3.0.1/gcc/
>>
>>logically possible files are:
>>
>>hal.net.brandeis.edu 26: du -a | grep config.h | more
>>14      ./gcc301/libiberty/config.h
>>2       ./gcc301/gcc/config.h
>
>I've never stumbled in this before.
From what I see, you should have put the gcc 3.0.1 sources in
>   /software/gcc-3.0.1/gcc/
>and configured in
>   ./gcc301
>with
>   /software/gcc-3.0.1/configure <configure options>
>
>Then, you should be building in
>   ./gcc301
>with
>   make bootstrap
>.
>
>If this is what you have done (that is, I assume you are not trying to
>build in the source rather than in the configure directory), I don't know
>what may be wrong.
>
>Sorry for not being of more help
>fwyzard
>
>


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Re: "missing files"

[Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci]

>
>hal.net.brandeis.edu 48: ../make-3.79.1/make bootstrap >makeboot.log
>cpp: "fixlib.h", line 30: error 4036: Can't open include file 'config.h'.
>
>#include "auto-host.h"
>#include "ansidecl.h"
>#include "config.h"
>#include "system.h"
>
>that line from the file calling config.h shows that it's looking for it in 
>/software/gcc-3.0.1/gcc/
>
>logically possible files are:
>
>hal.net.brandeis.edu 26: du -a | grep config.h | more
>14      ./gcc301/libiberty/config.h
>2       ./gcc301/gcc/config.h

I've never stumbled in this before.
 From what I see, you should have put the gcc 3.0.1 sources in
   /software/gcc-3.0.1/gcc/
and configured in
   ./gcc301
with
   /software/gcc-3.0.1/configure <configure options>

Then, you should be building in
   ./gcc301
with
   make bootstrap
.

If this is what you have done (that is, I assume you are not trying to 
build in the source rather than in the configure directory), I don't know 
what may be wrong.

Sorry for not being of more help
fwyzard

Re: "missing files"

[J P]

>From: Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci <fwyzard@inwind.it>
>To: "J P" <buttermaker@hotmail.com>,gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org
>Subject: Re: "missing files"
>Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:26:23 +0100
>
>At 18.28 21/11/01 (GMT +0000), J P wrote:
>>has anyone else dealt with files that seem to have inappriopriately set
>>pathnames? i mena that the files are called missing while they are
>>resident inthe oject directory instead of the source directory, aside
>>fromt hat everything is the same.
>
>
>for example ?

hal.net.brandeis.edu 48: ../make-3.79.1/make bootstrap >makeboot.log
cpp: "fixlib.h", line 30: error 4036: Can't open include file 'config.h'.

#include "auto-host.h"
#include "ansidecl.h"
#include "config.h"
#include "system.h"

that line from the file calling config.h shows that it's looking for it in 
/software/gcc-3.0.1/gcc/

logically possible files are:

hal.net.brandeis.edu 26: du -a | grep config.h | more
14      ./gcc301/libiberty/config.h
2       ./gcc301/gcc/config.h


>
>fwyzard
>
>


*******************
Joh Perlmutter
NOC "intern"
Brandeis University



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Re: "missing files"

[Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci]

>hal.net.brandeis.edu 41: ld -V
>92453-07 linker command s800.sgs ld PA64 B.11.18 REL 000922
>ld: 92453-07 linker linker ld B.11.18 000922
>ld: Usage:  ld [options] [flags] files
>hal.net.brandeis.edu 42:
>
>for some reason i get hte feeling that means it's still looking at the HP 
>ones. if i'm right, then how do i switch over to the gnubinutils?
>(gnubinutils were made into the directory "gnubinutils-2.11.2" which has 
>path "/software/gnubinutils-2.11.2")

The for sure don't look like GNU binutils (which ld say something like
GNU ld version 2.11.90.0.8 (with BFD 2.11.90.0.8)

I'm not sure anout binutils and make, but if they behave like gcc yuo 
should have made a "make install" after "make".
If so, add the directory where you installed those BEFORE the directory 
where the HP are in your PATH and configure gcc with
.../configure ... -with-gnu-as -with-gnu-ld

Or, if you just want to use the GNU binutils for compiling gcc, you can 
configure it with
.../configure ... -with-gnu-as="full path to gnu as"/as -with-gnu-ld="full 
path to wgnu ld"/ld


>if i'm right and those aren't the gnubinutils, then after i set them up, 
>since i've gone through about a dozen tries with the "gmake bootstrap" 
>command, should i simply reconfigure, or should i remove the current 
>object directory and start over so that i can make complete use of the gnu 
>binutils instead of partial use? one of the things i came across doing 
>this said that the hp make corrupts a lot of the gnu things, which is why 
>it said not only to use gmake, but preferably one that was made ignoring 
>any resident make on an hpux machine.

I'm not sure if deleting it all is necessary - maybe "make clean" is enough 
- but it sure won't harm. So, my advice is, use a new direcotry and 
configure/make from scratch.

HTH


>thanx for all the help so far.

You're welcome :-)
fwyzard

Re: "missing files"

[J P]

>From: Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci <fwyzard@inwind.it>
>To: "J P" <buttermaker@hotmail.com>,gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org
>Subject: Re: "missing files"
>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:48:06 +0100
>
>At 17.21 28/11/01 (GMT +0000), you wrote:
>>that is what i have done. thank you for trying though.
>>i have successfully ported the latest gnu binutils and gmake. so i know it
>>has them to use. i followed the 11.00 instructions and it worked fine. if
>>someone from gnu is watching they should add that to the installs instead
>>of saying that it has never been tried. in order to avoid corruption witht
>>he make, i used the method for those that don't have a make.
>>
>>my first thought is that something was wrong with one of those, but the
>>gmake i had to put in the path, and it works once i put it there.
>>
>>unless the gnu binutils installed incorrectly and it's using the hp
>>inherent ones. could that be it? if so, how do i check that the
>>gnubinutils are installed and pointed to the dir i installed them to from
>>where they need pointers? i thought the readme said it places them.
>
>I don't think this could be a binutils problem, as cpp is a part of gcc.
>Anyway, t osee if the binutils your are using are one you installed, you
>could make
>ld -V
>and see what the answer is.

hal.net.brandeis.edu 41: ld -V
92453-07 linker command s800.sgs ld PA64 B.11.18 REL 000922
ld: 92453-07 linker linker ld B.11.18 000922
ld: Usage:  ld [options] [flags] files
hal.net.brandeis.edu 42:

for some reason i get hte feeling that means it's still looking at the HP 
ones. if i'm right, then how do i switch over to the gnubinutils?
(gnubinutils were made into the directory "gnubinutils-2.11.2" which has 
path "/software/gnubinutils-2.11.2")

>GNU ld should tell what version it is along with the supporte targets it
>has been built for.
>
>I was wondering - did you installed gmake and the binutils befor
>configuring gcc, right ?

yeah, i did the gmake, then configured binutils so that i could use gmake to 
make them, then confired (and am no trying to make) the gcc.

>You might want to re-configure (in the same place, with the same options)
>just to grab the output. I should mention what ersion of the various tools
>will be used to build gcc.
>
>fwyzard
>
>

if i'm right and those aren't the gnubinutils, then after i set them up, 
since i've gone through about a dozen tries with the "gmake bootstrap" 
command, should i simply reconfigure, or should i remove the current object 
directory and start over so that i can make complete use of the gnu binutils 
instead of partial use? one of the things i came across doing this said that 
the hp make corrupts a lot of the gnu things, which is why it said not only 
to use gmake, but preferably one that was made ignoring any resident make on 
an hpux machine.

thanx for all the help so far.

-Josh

*******************
Joh Perlmutter
NOC "intern"
Brandeis University

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Re: "missing files"

[Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci]

At 17.21 28/11/01 (GMT +0000), you wrote:
>that is what i have done. thank you for trying though.
>i have successfully ported the latest gnu binutils and gmake. so i know it 
>has them to use. i followed the 11.00 instructions and it worked fine. if 
>someone from gnu is watching they should add that to the installs instead 
>of saying that it has never been tried. in order to avoid corruption witht 
>he make, i used the method for those that don't have a make.
>
>my first thought is that something was wrong with one of those, but the 
>gmake i had to put in the path, and it works once i put it there.
>
>unless the gnu binutils installed incorrectly and it's using the hp 
>inherent ones. could that be it? if so, how do i check that the 
>gnubinutils are installed and pointed to the dir i installed them to from 
>where they need pointers? i thought the readme said it places them.

I don't think this could be a binutils problem, as cpp is a part of gcc.
Anyway, t osee if the binutils your are using are one you installed, you 
could make
ld -V
and see what the answer is.
GNU ld should tell what version it is along with the supporte targets it 
has been built for.

I was wondering - did you installed gmake and the binutils befor 
configuring gcc, right ?
You might want to re-configure (in the same place, with the same options) 
just to grab the output. I should mention what ersion of the various tools 
will be used to build gcc.

fwyzard

Re: "missing files"

[J P]

that is what i have done. thank you for trying though.
i have successfully ported the latest gnu binutils and gmake. so i know it 
has them to use. i followed the 11.00 instructions and it worked fine. if 
someone from gnu is watching they should add that to the installs instead of 
saying that it has never been tried. in order to avoid corruption witht he 
make, i used the method for those that don't have a make.

my first thought is that something was wrong with one of those, but the 
gmake i had to put in the path, and it works once i put it there.

unless the gnu binutils installed incorrectly and it's using the hp inherent 
ones. could that be it? if so, how do i check that the gnubinutils are 
installed and pointed to the dir i installed them to from where they need 
pointers? i thought the readme said it places them.

*******************
Joh Perlmutter
NOC "intern"
Brandeis University



>From: Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci <fwyzard@inwind.it>
>To: "J P" <buttermaker@hotmail.com>,
>Subject: Re: "missing files"
>Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:02:39 +0100
>
>
>>
>>hal.net.brandeis.edu 48: ../make-3.79.1/make bootstrap >makeboot.log
>>cpp: "fixlib.h", line 30: error 4036: Can't open include file 'config.h'.
>>
>>#include "auto-host.h"
>>#include "ansidecl.h"
>>#include "config.h"
>>#include "system.h"
>>
>>that line from the file calling config.h shows that it's looking for it in
>>/software/gcc-3.0.1/gcc/
>>
>>logically possible files are:
>>
>>hal.net.brandeis.edu 26: du -a | grep config.h | more
>>14      ./gcc301/libiberty/config.h
>>2       ./gcc301/gcc/config.h
>
>I've never stumbled in this before.
From what I see, you should have put the gcc 3.0.1 sources in
>   /software/gcc-3.0.1/gcc/
>and configured in
>   ./gcc301
>with
>   /software/gcc-3.0.1/configure <configure options>
>
>Then, you should be building in
>   ./gcc301
>with
>   make bootstrap
>.
>
>If this is what you have done (that is, I assume you are not trying to
>build in the source rather than in the configure directory), I don't know
>what may be wrong.
>
>Sorry for not being of more help
>fwyzard
>
>


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Re: "missing files"

[Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci]

>
>hal.net.brandeis.edu 48: ../make-3.79.1/make bootstrap >makeboot.log
>cpp: "fixlib.h", line 30: error 4036: Can't open include file 'config.h'.
>
>#include "auto-host.h"
>#include "ansidecl.h"
>#include "config.h"
>#include "system.h"
>
>that line from the file calling config.h shows that it's looking for it in 
>/software/gcc-3.0.1/gcc/
>
>logically possible files are:
>
>hal.net.brandeis.edu 26: du -a | grep config.h | more
>14      ./gcc301/libiberty/config.h
>2       ./gcc301/gcc/config.h

I've never stumbled in this before.
 From what I see, you should have put the gcc 3.0.1 sources in
   /software/gcc-3.0.1/gcc/
and configured in
   ./gcc301
with
   /software/gcc-3.0.1/configure <configure options>

Then, you should be building in
   ./gcc301
with
   make bootstrap
.

If this is what you have done (that is, I assume you are not trying to 
build in the source rather than in the configure directory), I don't know 
what may be wrong.

Sorry for not being of more help
fwyzard

Re: "missing files"

[J P]

>From: Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci <fwyzard@inwind.it>
>To: "J P" <buttermaker@hotmail.com>,gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org
>Subject: Re: "missing files"
>Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:26:23 +0100
>
>At 18.28 21/11/01 (GMT +0000), J P wrote:
>>has anyone else dealt with files that seem to have inappriopriately set
>>pathnames? i mena that the files are called missing while they are
>>resident inthe oject directory instead of the source directory, aside
>>fromt hat everything is the same.
>
>
>for example ?

hal.net.brandeis.edu 48: ../make-3.79.1/make bootstrap >makeboot.log
cpp: "fixlib.h", line 30: error 4036: Can't open include file 'config.h'.

#include "auto-host.h"
#include "ansidecl.h"
#include "config.h"
#include "system.h"

that line from the file calling config.h shows that it's looking for it in 
/software/gcc-3.0.1/gcc/

logically possible files are:

hal.net.brandeis.edu 26: du -a | grep config.h | more
14      ./gcc301/libiberty/config.h
2       ./gcc301/gcc/config.h


>
>fwyzard
>
>


*******************
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NOC "intern"
Brandeis University



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"missing files"

[J P]

has anyone else dealt with files that seem to have inappriopriately set
pathnames? i mena that the files are called missing while they are resident
inthe oject directory instead of the source directory, aside fromt hat
everything is the same.

*******************
Joh Perlmutter
NOC "intern"
Brandeis University


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Re: "missing files"

[Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci]

At 18.28 21/11/01 (GMT +0000), J P wrote:
>has anyone else dealt with files that seem to have inappriopriately set 
>pathnames? i mena that the files are called missing while they are 
>resident inthe oject directory instead of the source directory, aside 
>fromt hat everything is the same.


for example ?

fwyzard

"missing files"

[J P]

has anyone else dealt with files that seem to have inappriopriately set 
pathnames? i mena that the files are called missing while they are resident 
inthe oject directory instead of the source directory, aside fromt hat 
everything is the same.

*******************
Joh Perlmutter
NOC "intern"
Brandeis University


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