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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com>
Cc: Xi Ruoyao <xry111@mengyan1223.wang>,  Jonny Grant <jg@jguk.org>,
	 gcc-help <gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Recursive SIGSEGV question
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:51:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bm1yho61.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <95ff2a72-47fb-5cc3-5852-08517e3ce76e@redhat.com> (Andrew Haley's	message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:47:23 +0000")

* Andrew Haley:

> On 3/25/19 2:01 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> * Xi Ruoyao:
>> 
>>> On 2019-03-25 13:06 +0000, Jonny Grant wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I built & ran with the Sanitizer, it seems it's also stack overflow 
>>>> within the operator new()
>>>>
>>>> I had thoughts GCC would generate code that monitored the stack size and 
>>>> aborted with a clear message when the stack size was exceeded. Looked 
>>>> online, and it doesn't seem to be the case.
>>>
>>> Impossible.  We can't distinguish "stack overflow" with other segmentation
>>> faults.
>> 
>> I think “impossible” is too strong.
>
> It is. We do it with stack banging and a few guard pages in the HotSpot JVM.
> The problem is that recovering well enough to throw an exception requires
> some quite hairy non-portable code.

Of course it's going to be non-portable.  Ideally, this would be
handled out-of-process: the shell registers itself with the system
coredump handler, and the handler analyzes the crash and provides
information back to the shell for display.

It's quite difficult to get there, but it's certainly not impossible.
We really should have lightweight tracebacks for aborts and the like
in C/C++ code.  Right now, every moderately large piece of software
tries to write their robust in-process crash handler, with varying
results.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-25 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-19 22:05 Jonny Grant
2019-03-20  4:02 ` Florian Weimer
2019-03-20  8:11   ` Jonny Grant
2019-03-25 13:23   ` Jonny Grant
2019-03-25 13:27     ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-03-25 13:56     ` Florian Weimer
2019-03-25 14:01     ` Xi Ruoyao
2019-03-25 15:47       ` Florian Weimer
2019-03-25 16:10         ` Andrew Haley
2019-03-25 16:13           ` Jonny Grant
2019-03-25 16:23             ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-03-25 18:51           ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2019-03-25 20:39             ` Jonny Grant
2019-03-26  6:50               ` Xi Ruoyao
2019-03-27  0:29                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-03-27 21:34             ` Jonny Grant
2019-03-27 23:43               ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-03-27 23:51                 ` Jonny Grant
2019-03-28  8:26                   ` Xi Ruoyao
2019-03-28 11:52                     ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-03-29  2:24                     ` Jonny Grant
2019-03-30 17:32                       ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-19 21:21                       ` Jonny Grant
2023-02-19 21:34                         ` Jonny Grant
2019-03-28 13:55                   ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-03-28 14:39                     ` Jonny Grant
2019-03-28 14:39                       ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-03-25 20:28         ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-03-25 18:56       ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-03-25 22:05       ` Jonny Grant
2019-03-26 10:20         ` Xi Ruoyao

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