MinGW G++ license information (was RE: Information Required)

MinGW G++ license information (was RE: Information Required)

[Dallman, John]

The MinGW builds of GCC for Windows are not used by nearly as many people as the Linux builds, and many people on this list, such as me, will be unfamiliar with the MinGW file layout. If you go to http://www.mingw.org/license and scroll down to "Binutils, GCC, GDB, GNU Make", you'll see that the Gnu development tools, such as GCC, are under various versions of the Gnu General Public License, aka "GPL". You can read about that at https://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#GPL.

To find out which version of GPL the GCC/g++ you have is under, look for a file or files matching *COPYING* in whatever directories MinGW GCC is installed in.

You would appear to be unfamiliar with free software licenses: they are very different from those for most commercial software. Please read the COPYING files, and think about their implications. They say what they mean, in quite plain language, and they have the opposite intent from most commercial licenses.

--
John Dallman
DI SW PES OT PC PDE
Open Tools
Nullius in verba

Siemens Digital Industries Software
Siemens Industry Software Limited
Francis House, 112 Hills Road,
Cambridge CB2 1PH, United Kingdom
Tel.      :+44 (1223) 371554
Fax       :+44 (1223) 371700
john.dallman@siemens.com
www.siemens.com/plm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gcc-help <gcc-help-bounces@gcc.gnu.org> On Behalf Of Sharma,
> Vaibhav /CS via Gcc-help
> Sent: 17 August 2020 20:58
> To: 'Jonathan Wakely' <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>
> Cc: gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-UIT <GSC-EMIT-HCL-
> ITAM-NP&C-UIT@exxonmobil.com>; Singla, Kanika /CS
> <kanika.singla@exxonmobil.com>
> Subject: RE: Information Required
>
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> We are unable to track terms and conditions associated with GCC in the
> provided link.
>
> Could you please help us with the agreement (terms and conditions)
> associated with GCC, so that same can be referred for g++.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Vaibhav Sharma
> Software Analyst
> New Products & Complex Team
> EMIT | IT OPS | CES | ADS| SAM
>
> HCL Technologies Ltd.
> (CIN: L74140DL1991PLC046369)
> 10th Floor, ODC-IV, Software Tower 6, Sector 126 Noida SEZ, Uttar Pradesh –
> 201301, India
> Office: +1 408 809 3746 (Extension - 414-4398) Email :
> vaibhav.sharma@exxonmobil.com
>
> for
>
> ExxonMobil Global Services Company
> 22777 Springwoods Village Parkway
> Spring, TX 77389
> United States of America
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Wakely [mailto:jwakely.gcc@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 9:49 PM
> To: Sharma, Vaibhav /CS
> Cc: gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-UIT; Singla, Kanika /CS
> Subject: Re: Information Required
>
> External Email - Think Before You Click
>
>
>
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 20:20, Sharma, Vaibhav /CS via Gcc-help <gcc-
> help@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > Greetings for the day !
> >
> > We are from Software Asset Management (SAM) Team of ExxonMobil and
> we are working on a request for an In-House application Devstar which has
> g++ (Source : mingw.org) as one of the third party component.
> >
> > We are unable to track Terms and Conditions associated with this
> component.
>
> It's free software. See its licence.
>
> > Could you please confirm if g++ is a separate component or it is a part of
> GCC. If yes, please confirm the agreement covering this component.
>
> G++ is part of GCC.
>
> There is no agreement covering it, it's free software.
> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

-----------------
Siemens Industry Software Limited is a limited company registered in England and Wales.
Registered number: 3476850.
Registered office: Faraday House, Sir William Siemens Square, Frimley, Surrey, GU16 8QD.

RE: MinGW G++ license information (was RE: Information Required)

[Sharma, Vaibhav /CS]

Hi John,

Thanks for sharing this information with us.

We will get back to you if we need any further information to move forward with the review.

Regards,

Vaibhav Sharma
Software Analyst
New Products & Complex Team
EMIT | IT OPS | CES | ADS| SAM

HCL Technologies Ltd. 
(CIN: L74140DL1991PLC046369)
10th Floor, ODC-IV, Software Tower 6, Sector 126
Noida SEZ, Uttar Pradesh – 201301, India
Office: +1 408 809 3746 (Extension - 414-4398) 
Email : vaibhav.sharma@exxonmobil.com

for

ExxonMobil Global Services Company
22777 Springwoods Village Parkway
Spring, TX 77389
United States of America



-----Original Message-----
From: Dallman, John [mailto:john.dallman@siemens.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 2:51 PM
To: Sharma, Vaibhav /CS; 'Jonathan Wakely'
Cc: GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-UIT; Singla, Kanika /CS; gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: MinGW G++ license information (was RE: Information Required)

External Email - Think Before You Click



The MinGW builds of GCC for Windows are not used by nearly as many people as the Linux builds, and many people on this list, such as me, will be unfamiliar with the MinGW file layout. If you go to http://www.mingw.org/license and scroll down to "Binutils, GCC, GDB, GNU Make", you'll see that the Gnu development tools, such as GCC, are under various versions of the Gnu General Public License, aka "GPL". You can read about that at https://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#GPL.

To find out which version of GPL the GCC/g++ you have is under, look for a file or files matching *COPYING* in whatever directories MinGW GCC is installed in.

You would appear to be unfamiliar with free software licenses: they are very different from those for most commercial software. Please read the COPYING files, and think about their implications. They say what they mean, in quite plain language, and they have the opposite intent from most commercial licenses.

--
John Dallman
DI SW PES OT PC PDE
Open Tools
Nullius in verba

Siemens Digital Industries Software
Siemens Industry Software Limited
Francis House, 112 Hills Road,
Cambridge CB2 1PH, United Kingdom
Tel.      :+44 (1223) 371554
Fax       :+44 (1223) 371700
john.dallman@siemens.com
www.siemens.com/plm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gcc-help <gcc-help-bounces@gcc.gnu.org> On Behalf Of Sharma,
> Vaibhav /CS via Gcc-help
> Sent: 17 August 2020 20:58
> To: 'Jonathan Wakely' <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>
> Cc: gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-UIT <GSC-EMIT-HCL-
> ITAM-NP&C-UIT@exxonmobil.com>; Singla, Kanika /CS
> <kanika.singla@exxonmobil.com>
> Subject: RE: Information Required
>
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> We are unable to track terms and conditions associated with GCC in the
> provided link.
>
> Could you please help us with the agreement (terms and conditions)
> associated with GCC, so that same can be referred for g++.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Vaibhav Sharma
> Software Analyst
> New Products & Complex Team
> EMIT | IT OPS | CES | ADS| SAM
>
> HCL Technologies Ltd.
> (CIN: L74140DL1991PLC046369)
> 10th Floor, ODC-IV, Software Tower 6, Sector 126 Noida SEZ, Uttar Pradesh –
> 201301, India
> Office: +1 408 809 3746 (Extension - 414-4398) Email :
> vaibhav.sharma@exxonmobil.com
>
> for
>
> ExxonMobil Global Services Company
> 22777 Springwoods Village Parkway
> Spring, TX 77389
> United States of America
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Wakely [mailto:jwakely.gcc@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 9:49 PM
> To: Sharma, Vaibhav /CS
> Cc: gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-UIT; Singla, Kanika /CS
> Subject: Re: Information Required
>
> External Email - Think Before You Click
>
>
>
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 20:20, Sharma, Vaibhav /CS via Gcc-help <gcc-
> help@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > Greetings for the day !
> >
> > We are from Software Asset Management (SAM) Team of ExxonMobil and
> we are working on a request for an In-House application Devstar which has
> g++ (Source : mingw.org) as one of the third party component.
> >
> > We are unable to track Terms and Conditions associated with this
> component.
>
> It's free software. See its licence.
>
> > Could you please confirm if g++ is a separate component or it is a part of
> GCC. If yes, please confirm the agreement covering this component.
>
> G++ is part of GCC.
>
> There is no agreement covering it, it's free software.
> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

-----------------
Siemens Industry Software Limited is a limited company registered in England and Wales.
Registered number: 3476850.
Registered office: Faraday House, Sir William Siemens Square, Frimley, Surrey, GU16 8QD.

RE: MinGW G++ license information (was RE: Information Required)

[Dallman, John]

> We will get back to you if we need any further information to move forward with the review.

Please note that I have no direct connection with the GCC project (I just use their compiler on Linux) and don't know much about MinGW at all. I'm just trying to be helpful, because I have a little experience in explaining the Gnu world to corporate IT types.

--
John Dallman
DI SW PES OT PC PDE
Open Tools
Nullius in verba

Siemens Digital Industries Software
Siemens Industry Software Limited
Francis House, 112 Hills Road,
Cambridge CB2 1PH, United Kingdom
Tel.      :+44 (1223) 371554
Fax       :+44 (1223) 371700
john.dallman@siemens.com
www.siemens.com/plm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sharma, Vaibhav /CS <vaibhav.sharma@exxonmobil.com>
> Sent: 18 August 2020 12:00
> To: Dallman, John (DI SW PE OT PC PDE) <john.dallman@siemens.com>;
> 'Jonathan Wakely' <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>
> Cc: GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-UIT <GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-
> UIT@exxonmobil.com>; Singla, Kanika /CS
> <kanika.singla@exxonmobil.com>; gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org
> Subject: RE: MinGW G++ license information (was RE: Information Required)
>
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for sharing this information with us.
>
> We will get back to you if we need any further information to move forward
> with the review.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vaibhav Sharma
> Software Analyst
> New Products & Complex Team
> EMIT | IT OPS | CES | ADS| SAM
>
> HCL Technologies Ltd.
> (CIN: L74140DL1991PLC046369)
> 10th Floor, ODC-IV, Software Tower 6, Sector 126 Noida SEZ, Uttar Pradesh –
> 201301, India
> Office: +1 408 809 3746 (Extension - 414-4398) Email :
> vaibhav.sharma@exxonmobil.com
>
> for
>
> ExxonMobil Global Services Company
> 22777 Springwoods Village Parkway
> Spring, TX 77389
> United States of America
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dallman, John [mailto:john.dallman@siemens.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 2:51 PM
> To: Sharma, Vaibhav /CS; 'Jonathan Wakely'
> Cc: GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-UIT; Singla, Kanika /CS; gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org
> Subject: MinGW G++ license information (was RE: Information Required)
>
> External Email - Think Before You Click
>
>
>
> The MinGW builds of GCC for Windows are not used by nearly as many
> people as the Linux builds, and many people on this list, such as me, will be
> unfamiliar with the MinGW file layout. If you go to
> http://www.mingw.org/license and scroll down to "Binutils, GCC, GDB, GNU
> Make", you'll see that the Gnu development tools, such as GCC, are under
> various versions of the Gnu General Public License, aka "GPL". You can read
> about that at https://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#GPL.
>
> To find out which version of GPL the GCC/g++ you have is under, look for a
> file or files matching *COPYING* in whatever directories MinGW GCC is
> installed in.
>
> You would appear to be unfamiliar with free software licenses: they are very
> different from those for most commercial software. Please read the
> COPYING files, and think about their implications. They say what they mean,
> in quite plain language, and they have the opposite intent from most
> commercial licenses.
>
> --
> John Dallman
> DI SW PES OT PC PDE
> Open Tools
> Nullius in verba
>
> Siemens Digital Industries Software
> Siemens Industry Software Limited
> Francis House, 112 Hills Road,
> Cambridge CB2 1PH, United Kingdom
> Tel.      :+44 (1223) 371554
> Fax       :+44 (1223) 371700
> john.dallman@siemens.com
> www.siemens.com/plm
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gcc-help <gcc-help-bounces@gcc.gnu.org> On Behalf Of Sharma,
> > Vaibhav /CS via Gcc-help
> > Sent: 17 August 2020 20:58
> > To: 'Jonathan Wakely' <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>
> > Cc: gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-UIT <GSC-EMIT-
> HCL-
> > ITAM-NP&C-UIT@exxonmobil.com>; Singla, Kanika /CS
> > <kanika.singla@exxonmobil.com>
> > Subject: RE: Information Required
> >
> > Hi Jonathan,
> >
> > We are unable to track terms and conditions associated with GCC in the
> > provided link.
> >
> > Could you please help us with the agreement (terms and conditions)
> > associated with GCC, so that same can be referred for g++.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Vaibhav Sharma
> > Software Analyst
> > New Products & Complex Team
> > EMIT | IT OPS | CES | ADS| SAM
> >
> > HCL Technologies Ltd.
> > (CIN: L74140DL1991PLC046369)
> > 10th Floor, ODC-IV, Software Tower 6, Sector 126 Noida SEZ, Uttar
> > Pradesh – 201301, India
> > Office: +1 408 809 3746 (Extension - 414-4398) Email :
> > vaibhav.sharma@exxonmobil.com
> >
> > for
> >
> > ExxonMobil Global Services Company
> > 22777 Springwoods Village Parkway
> > Spring, TX 77389
> > United States of America
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jonathan Wakely [mailto:jwakely.gcc@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 9:49 PM
> > To: Sharma, Vaibhav /CS
> > Cc: gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-UIT; Singla, Kanika
> > /CS
> > Subject: Re: Information Required
> >
> > External Email - Think Before You Click
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 20:20, Sharma, Vaibhav /CS via Gcc-help <gcc-
> > help@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Team,
> > >
> > > Greetings for the day !
> > >
> > > We are from Software Asset Management (SAM) Team of ExxonMobil
> and
> > we are working on a request for an In-House application Devstar which
> > has
> > g++ (Source : mingw.org) as one of the third party component.
> > >
> > > We are unable to track Terms and Conditions associated with this
> > component.
> >
> > It's free software. See its licence.
> >
> > > Could you please confirm if g++ is a separate component or it is a
> > > part of
> > GCC. If yes, please confirm the agreement covering this component.
> >
> > G++ is part of GCC.
> >
> > There is no agreement covering it, it's free software.
> > https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
>
> -----------------
> Siemens Industry Software Limited is a limited company registered in England
> and Wales.
> Registered number: 3476850.
> Registered office: Faraday House, Sir William Siemens Square, Frimley,
> Surrey, GU16 8QD.
-----------------
Siemens Industry Software Limited is a limited company registered in England and Wales.
Registered number: 3476850.
Registered office: Faraday House, Sir William Siemens Square, Frimley, Surrey, GU16 8QD.

RE: MinGW G++ license information (was RE: Information Required)

[Sharma, Vaibhav /CS]

Hi John,

This has been acknowledged.

Thanks for your valuable support to get our review move forward.


Regards,

Vaibhav Sharma
Software Analyst
New Products & Complex Team
EMIT | IT OPS | CES | ADS| SAM

HCL Technologies Ltd. 
(CIN: L74140DL1991PLC046369)
10th Floor, ODC-IV, Software Tower 6, Sector 126
Noida SEZ, Uttar Pradesh – 201301, India
Office: +1 408 809 3746 (Extension - 414-4398) 
Email : vaibhav.sharma@exxonmobil.com

for

ExxonMobil Global Services Company
22777 Springwoods Village Parkway
Spring, TX 77389
United States of America




-----Original Message-----
From: Dallman, John [mailto:john.dallman@siemens.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 4:47 PM
To: Sharma, Vaibhav /CS; 'Jonathan Wakely'
Cc: GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-UIT; Singla, Kanika /CS; gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; Dallman, John
Subject: RE: MinGW G++ license information (was RE: Information Required)

External Email - Think Before You Click



> We will get back to you if we need any further information to move forward with the review.

Please note that I have no direct connection with the GCC project (I just use their compiler on Linux) and don't know much about MinGW at all. I'm just trying to be helpful, because I have a little experience in explaining the Gnu world to corporate IT types.

--
John Dallman
DI SW PES OT PC PDE
Open Tools
Nullius in verba

Siemens Digital Industries Software
Siemens Industry Software Limited
Francis House, 112 Hills Road,
Cambridge CB2 1PH, United Kingdom
Tel.      :+44 (1223) 371554
Fax       :+44 (1223) 371700
john.dallman@siemens.com
www.siemens.com/plm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sharma, Vaibhav /CS <vaibhav.sharma@exxonmobil.com>
> Sent: 18 August 2020 12:00
> To: Dallman, John (DI SW PE OT PC PDE) <john.dallman@siemens.com>;
> 'Jonathan Wakely' <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>
> Cc: GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-UIT <GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-
> UIT@exxonmobil.com>; Singla, Kanika /CS
> <kanika.singla@exxonmobil.com>; gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org
> Subject: RE: MinGW G++ license information (was RE: Information Required)
>
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for sharing this information with us.
>
> We will get back to you if we need any further information to move forward
> with the review.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vaibhav Sharma
> Software Analyst
> New Products & Complex Team
> EMIT | IT OPS | CES | ADS| SAM
>
> HCL Technologies Ltd.
> (CIN: L74140DL1991PLC046369)
> 10th Floor, ODC-IV, Software Tower 6, Sector 126 Noida SEZ, Uttar Pradesh –
> 201301, India
> Office: +1 408 809 3746 (Extension - 414-4398) Email :
> vaibhav.sharma@exxonmobil.com
>
> for
>
> ExxonMobil Global Services Company
> 22777 Springwoods Village Parkway
> Spring, TX 77389
> United States of America
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dallman, John [mailto:john.dallman@siemens.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 2:51 PM
> To: Sharma, Vaibhav /CS; 'Jonathan Wakely'
> Cc: GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-UIT; Singla, Kanika /CS; gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org
> Subject: MinGW G++ license information (was RE: Information Required)
>
> External Email - Think Before You Click
>
>
>
> The MinGW builds of GCC for Windows are not used by nearly as many
> people as the Linux builds, and many people on this list, such as me, will be
> unfamiliar with the MinGW file layout. If you go to
> http://www.mingw.org/license and scroll down to "Binutils, GCC, GDB, GNU
> Make", you'll see that the Gnu development tools, such as GCC, are under
> various versions of the Gnu General Public License, aka "GPL". You can read
> about that at https://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#GPL.
>
> To find out which version of GPL the GCC/g++ you have is under, look for a
> file or files matching *COPYING* in whatever directories MinGW GCC is
> installed in.
>
> You would appear to be unfamiliar with free software licenses: they are very
> different from those for most commercial software. Please read the
> COPYING files, and think about their implications. They say what they mean,
> in quite plain language, and they have the opposite intent from most
> commercial licenses.
>
> --
> John Dallman
> DI SW PES OT PC PDE
> Open Tools
> Nullius in verba
>
> Siemens Digital Industries Software
> Siemens Industry Software Limited
> Francis House, 112 Hills Road,
> Cambridge CB2 1PH, United Kingdom
> Tel.      :+44 (1223) 371554
> Fax       :+44 (1223) 371700
> john.dallman@siemens.com
> www.siemens.com/plm
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gcc-help <gcc-help-bounces@gcc.gnu.org> On Behalf Of Sharma,
> > Vaibhav /CS via Gcc-help
> > Sent: 17 August 2020 20:58
> > To: 'Jonathan Wakely' <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>
> > Cc: gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-UIT <GSC-EMIT-
> HCL-
> > ITAM-NP&C-UIT@exxonmobil.com>; Singla, Kanika /CS
> > <kanika.singla@exxonmobil.com>
> > Subject: RE: Information Required
> >
> > Hi Jonathan,
> >
> > We are unable to track terms and conditions associated with GCC in the
> > provided link.
> >
> > Could you please help us with the agreement (terms and conditions)
> > associated with GCC, so that same can be referred for g++.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Vaibhav Sharma
> > Software Analyst
> > New Products & Complex Team
> > EMIT | IT OPS | CES | ADS| SAM
> >
> > HCL Technologies Ltd.
> > (CIN: L74140DL1991PLC046369)
> > 10th Floor, ODC-IV, Software Tower 6, Sector 126 Noida SEZ, Uttar
> > Pradesh – 201301, India
> > Office: +1 408 809 3746 (Extension - 414-4398) Email :
> > vaibhav.sharma@exxonmobil.com
> >
> > for
> >
> > ExxonMobil Global Services Company
> > 22777 Springwoods Village Parkway
> > Spring, TX 77389
> > United States of America
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jonathan Wakely [mailto:jwakely.gcc@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 9:49 PM
> > To: Sharma, Vaibhav /CS
> > Cc: gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; GSC-EMIT-HCL-ITAM-NP&C-UIT; Singla, Kanika
> > /CS
> > Subject: Re: Information Required
> >
> > External Email - Think Before You Click
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 20:20, Sharma, Vaibhav /CS via Gcc-help <gcc-
> > help@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Team,
> > >
> > > Greetings for the day !
> > >
> > > We are from Software Asset Management (SAM) Team of ExxonMobil
> and
> > we are working on a request for an In-House application Devstar which
> > has
> > g++ (Source : mingw.org) as one of the third party component.
> > >
> > > We are unable to track Terms and Conditions associated with this
> > component.
> >
> > It's free software. See its licence.
> >
> > > Could you please confirm if g++ is a separate component or it is a
> > > part of
> > GCC. If yes, please confirm the agreement covering this component.
> >
> > G++ is part of GCC.
> >
> > There is no agreement covering it, it's free software.
> > https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
>
> -----------------
> Siemens Industry Software Limited is a limited company registered in England
> and Wales.
> Registered number: 3476850.
> Registered office: Faraday House, Sir William Siemens Square, Frimley,
> Surrey, GU16 8QD.
-----------------
Siemens Industry Software Limited is a limited company registered in England and Wales.
Registered number: 3476850.
Registered office: Faraday House, Sir William Siemens Square, Frimley, Surrey, GU16 8QD.