From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x12d.google.com (mail-il1-x12d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12d]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D58A53861037 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2020 08:15:24 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org D58A53861037 Received: by mail-il1-x12d.google.com with SMTP id e14so8375359ile.6 for ; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 01:15:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pIjGuctnaRM9sa4wQfgoFt9CLBzUHCDvpupymVJr7c0=; b=XfgY7s+d+/m9EqM/rxWaEDETKazatfVJOecS6Er5nSyJGrCPW2SDHhjb5UA+7wZeWF dYiPdDC5bTO132FGiSSRKvqToj3ImTv0MIka0iG3BSlCLE5FOXJK3U16bfZ4aHmTFzeg 4KMDQR2CFPe09JjYYqIYLtlbmIBjt5GJ1z14z6es5Vp6lVHt7xPRh5qV9J1rGXnk3Str vP7CW3+2eDBzGmyAMeKfXV8XJpzG/f9Xl2HQpjMkG6Ejc9VEsfg/Bc2XxGCDQHckrYNv oHzqbU6ZHnlmOUTKB14haCtDYaK/LohDlxqY2AyJ5R20UJpR/1I/qUSEEEy8CEXWlzlU +xGA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533zPBavS4wD5jNA9LDu+Cc0EwA8gmbiPt9rScXQNtGpIU+ftlq6 oKN2NRVLPN70xQ+AydMso77p9KicaB5TZeQRn8c= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxKl6LKqmWMkf+OexdCO+bxd4gNxf0FKiQrwKFDfgNeWYu8N3TFnQSt7aaWkuzAWdkIpoZlkcCGQZEpQgtjvfU= X-Received: by 2002:a92:b748:: with SMTP id c8mr215249ilm.30.1599293724281; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 01:15:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200831201750.74266362@arch.localdomain> <20200903232726.ba28157e5ee86c0dbd76f723@wp.pl> <20200905004946.01f55c07cae44af25f88002e@wp.pl> In-Reply-To: <20200905004946.01f55c07cae44af25f88002e@wp.pl> From: Jonathan Wakely Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 09:15:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Question, using gcc, forum. To: tele Cc: gcc-help Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, KAM_SHORT, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP, URI_DOTEDU autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc-help mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2020 08:15:26 -0000 On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 23:51, tele via Gcc-help wrote: > > > I am looking for a "forum" where I can find help in learning programming c. > Because the "manual" doesn't look great for me. > > > For example: > - Where is C manual ? > https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/ > > Why there ? > https://www.gnu.org/software/gnu-c-manual/gnu-c-manual.html Because that's a completely separate project from GCC, it's just that they both happen to be under the GNU umbrella. It seems reasonable to link to the GNU C Manual from the GCC website, if we don't do so already. > For example: > https://www.gnu.org/software/gnu-c-manual/gnu-c-manual.html > https://tiswww.case.edu/php/chet/bash/bashref.html > > My description for an example of building a bicycle. > This looks like a description of the components that make up the bike. > I am especially concerned that the manual shows the gear, but it does not show if it is part of a larger set and where it is on the bike. > But maybe I am too stupid or blind because I do not see the tutorial on how to build a programs. > > For me, this is archeology in which I try to deduce something sensible from the ruins and sand. > > That's why I need someone who can help me get through the beginning a little. > Especially since the language is constantly evolving. Programming security too. And maybe someone has some programming advice on my own blog that I can't find in internet. My personal advice: Get a good book. Teaching C programming is not simple, and expecting to get it for free from a website is optimistic. If you want quality material, pay for it by supporting an established author of quality books.