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From: Xi Ruoyao <xry111@mengyan1223.wang>
To: Jonny Grant <jg@jguk.org>,
	Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: gcc-help <gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: gcc warn when pointers not checked non-null before de-referencing.
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 12:16:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa05b76faf6eb894d6752d93c7cb24ec4d8f1736.camel@mengyan1223.wang> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ffa2f90f-e1c9-4dc7-8f42-fddd1229063b@jguk.org>

On Thu, 2021-06-17 at 21:44 +0100, Jonny Grant wrote:
> 
> 
> On 16/06/2021 18:59, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 02:01:05PM +0100, Jonny Grant wrote:
> > > I guess a separate static analyser would do it, GCC is more
> > > focused on compilation so I shouldn't ask for it to have so many
> > > features it can't support.
> > 
> > -fsanitize=undefined already catches null pointer dereferences, is
> > that
> > enough for your case?
> > 
> > 
> > Segher
> 
> Hello
> Thank you for the suggestion, yes, I had used that before. I did just
> check, it's runtime checks. I had hoped for something at compile time.
> warning for every function that didn't check pointer for NULL before
> de-referencing.

There is no way to do this.

int foo(struct dev *dev)
{
    int r = sanitize_input(dev);
    if (r)
        return r;

    bar(&dev->id);
    return dev->id->result;
}

While there is no way to know the behavior of `sanitize_input` (it may
be defined in another TU), there is no way to tell if `foo` has done "a
proper non-null check".

And this "warning" does not make any sense.  It's perfectly legal for a
function to assume the input is not null and the caller should guarantee
it.  Adding a non-null check in every function is just paranoid.  This
really looks like a suggestion from some professors who don't program at
all, but unfortunately teach C and tell their own misconcept of
"defensive programming" everywhere.
-- 
Xi Ruoyao <xry111@mengyan1223.wang>
School of Aerospace Science and Technology, Xidian University


  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-18  4:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-13 22:30 Jonny Grant
2021-06-14  5:15 ` Xi Ruoyao
2021-06-16 13:01   ` Jonny Grant
2021-06-16 13:36     ` Xi Ruoyao
2021-07-03 15:36       ` Jonny Grant
2021-07-06 15:39         ` Xi Ruoyao
2021-07-19 18:20           ` Jonny Grant
2021-06-16 17:59     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-06-17 20:44       ` Jonny Grant
2021-06-18  4:16         ` Xi Ruoyao [this message]
2021-07-03 14:14           ` Jonny Grant
2021-07-03 16:22             ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-07-06 10:33               ` Jonny Grant
2021-06-18  8:38         ` Liu Hao
2021-06-18 14:53         ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-06-14 15:19 ` Martin Sebor

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