From: Paul Zimmermann <Paul.Zimmermann@inria.fr>
To: Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>
Cc: gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org, stephane.glondu@inria.fr, sibid@uvic.ca
Subject: Re: slowdown with -std=gnu18 with respect to -std=c99
Date: Tue, 03 May 2022 13:45:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <mwsfpqc01v.fsf@tomate.loria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9f7e3aa9-8d46-1fbb-75b-1c8ad9a667f@ispras.ru> (message from Alexander Monakov on Tue, 3 May 2022 12:09:32 +0300 (MSK))
thank you very much Alexander.
> Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 12:09:32 +0300 (MSK)
> From: Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>
> cc: gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org, stephane.glondu@inria.fr, sibid@uvic.ca
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2022, Paul Zimmermann via Gcc-help wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have a clue?
>
> I can reproduce a difference, but in my case it's simply because in -std=gnuXX
> mode (as opposed to -std=cXX) GCC enables FMA contraction, enabling the last few
> steps in the benchmarked function to use fma instead of separate mul/add
> instructions.
but then you should get better (i.e. smaller) timings with -std=gnuXX than
with -std=cXX, instead of worse timings as we get?
> (regarding __builtin_expect, it also makes a small difference in my case,
> it seems GCC generates some redundant code without it, but the difference is
> 10x smaller than what presence/absence of FMA gives)
>
> I think you might be able to figure it out on your end if you run both variants
> under 'perf stat', note how cycle count and instruction counts change, and then
> look at disassembly to see what changed. You can use 'perf record' and 'perf
> report' to easily see the hot code path; if you do that, I'd recommend to run
> it with the same sampling period in both cases, e.g. like this:
>
> perf record -e instructions:P -c 500000 ./perf ...
thank you, we'll investigate that.
Best regards,
Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-03 11:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-03 8:28 Paul Zimmermann
2022-05-03 9:09 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-03 11:45 ` Paul Zimmermann [this message]
2022-05-03 12:12 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-05 8:57 ` Stéphane Glondu
2022-05-05 14:31 ` Stéphane Glondu
2022-05-05 14:41 ` Marc Glisse
2022-05-05 14:56 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-06 7:46 ` Paul Zimmermann
2022-05-06 9:27 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-07 6:11 ` Paul Zimmermann
2022-05-11 13:26 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-05 17:50 ` Paul Zimmermann
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