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From: Aldy Hernandez <aldyh@redhat.com>
To: Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew MacLeod <amacleod@redhat.com>,
	GCC patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Replace VRP threader with a hybrid forward threader.
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 17:27:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0dc3521b-8d91-6e55-5d7d-7ee513c17c0f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5cd175c7-5dbb-e160-9dd2-85dcfe438059@gmail.com>



On 9/27/21 5:01 PM, Jeff Law wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/24/2021 9:46 AM, Aldy Hernandez wrote:
>> This patch implements the new hybrid forward threader and replaces the
>> embedded VRP threader with it.
> But most importantly, it pulls it out of the VRP pass as we no longer 
> need the VRP data or ASSERT_EXPRs.

Yes, I have a follow-up patch removing the old mini-pass.

> 
>>
>> With all the pieces that have gone in, the implementation of the hybrid
>> threader is straightforward: convert the current state into
>> SSA imports that the solver will understand, and let the path solver
>> precompute ranges and relations for the path.  After this setup is done,
>> we can use the range_query API to solve gimple statements in the 
>> threader.
>> The forward threader is now engine agnostic so there are no changes to
>> the threader per se.
> So the big question is do we think it's going to be this clean when we 
> try to divorce the threading from DOM?

Interestingly, yes.  With all the refactoring I've done, it turns out 
that divorcing evrp from the DOM threader is a matter of having 
dom_jt_simplifier inherit from hybrid_jt_simplifier instead of the base 
class.  Then we have simplify() look at the const_copies/avails, 
otherwise let the hybrid simplifier do its thing.  Yes, I was amazed too.

As usual there are caveats:

First, notice that we'd still depend on const_copies/avails, because 
we'd need them for floats anyhow.  But this has the added benefit of 
catching a few things in the presence of the IL changing from under us.

Second, it turns out that DOM has other uses of evrp that need to be 
addressed-- particularly its use of evrp to do its simple copy prop.

Be that as it may, none of these are show stoppers.  I have a proof of 
concept that converts everything with a few lines of code.

The big issue now is performance.  Plugging in the full ranger makes it 
uncomfortably slower than just using evrp.  Andrew has some ideas for a 
super fast ranger that doesn't do full look-ups, so we have finally 
found a good use case for something we had in the back burner.

Now, numbers...

Converting the DOM threader to a hybrid client improves DOM threading 
counts by 4%, but it's all at the expense of other passes.  The total 
threading counts was unchanged (well, it got worse by -0.05%).  It 
doesn't look like there's any gain.  We're shuffling things around at 
this point.

> 
>>
>> I have put the hybrid bits in tree-ssa-threadedge.*, instead of VRP,
>> because they will also be used in the evrp removal of the DOM/threader,
>> which is my next task.
> Sweet.
> 
>>
>> Most of the patch, is actually test changes.  I have gone through every
>> single one and verified that we're correct.  Most were trivial dump
>> file name changes, but others required going through the IL an
>> certifying that the different IL was expected.
>>
>> For example, in pr59597.c, we have one less thread because the
>> ASSERT_EXPR was getting in the way, and making it seem like things were
>> not crossing loops.  The hybrid threader sees the correct representation
>> of the IL, and avoids threading this one case.
>>
>> The final numbers are a 12.16% improvement in jump threads immediately
>> after VRP, and a 0.82% improvement in overall jump threads.  The
>> performance drop is 0.6% (plus the 1.43% hit from moving the embedded
>> threader into its own pass).  As I've said, I'd prefer to keep the
>> threader in its own pass, but if this is an issue, we can address this
>> with a shared ranger when VRP is replaced with an evrp instance
>> (upcoming).
> Presumably we're also seeing a cannibalization of threads from later 
> passes.   And just to be clear, this is good.
> 
> And the big question, is the pass running after VRP2 doing anything 
> particularly useful?  Do we want to try and kill it now, or later?

Interesting question.  Perhaps if we convert DOM threading to a hybrid 
model, it will render the post-VRP threader completely useless.  Huhh... 
That could kill 2 birds with one stone... we get rid of a threading 
pass, and we don't need to worry about as much about the super-fast ranger.

Huh...good idea.  I will experiment.

Thanks.
Aldy


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-27 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-24 15:46 Aldy Hernandez
2021-09-25 19:25 ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
     [not found]   ` <C9A89E9C-89D4-45A9-8DFC-BA0536D24611@gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <CAGm3qMVTw4hEvqNJmSaXbuUArYjMUoX7o-YOgMi2bLAm1i12-Q@mail.gmail.com>
2021-09-29  9:20       ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2021-09-29 15:45         ` Jeff Law
2021-09-27 15:01 ` Jeff Law
2021-09-27 15:27   ` Aldy Hernandez [this message]
2021-09-27 16:07     ` Aldy Hernandez
2021-09-27 17:28       ` Richard Biener
2021-10-14 12:29         ` Aldy Hernandez
2021-10-14 12:47           ` Richard Biener
2021-10-01 10:55 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2021-10-01 11:03   ` Aldy Hernandez

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